AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. ago. Second_Chances 8 years ago #7. This Pokemon can learn every known HM with the exception of Fly, and it. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. HM Locations. 5. 3DS FC: 4871-3350-8450 | Name: Obscura | Pokemon X Name: Erza. No, Mew is, but Dragonite's pretty good, too, as it can learn every HM. customise me! customise me! I wasted a Salamence as my HM Slave. -Henry Louis Mencken. Wish I had a Mew for this. 3DS FC: 3754-7554-1160 IGN: Danny. 19. Sharpedo for Waterfall/Surf/Dive, and Linoone for Cut/Rock Smash/Strength/Surf. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. HMs can be used an unlimited number of times and cannot be disposed of. Vanilluxe. DUFES - 13 years ago - report. It comes at a pretty high cost, and for a good reason. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to. It could learn all the necessary ones but cut, which is pretty darn good. Below we list every Pokémon available in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire with the HMs they can learn. Instead of cut, you get a pair of shears; instead of surf, you get a foldable canoe; instead of fly, you get access to teleporters in PokeCenters, etc. Exactly what I did for my HM slave. S. Flash is very situational and isn't worth carrying around for the most of the. 2. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. re: HM slaves - Pokémon Soul Silver. 5. if you. If memory serves, Bibarel and Tropius learn all 8 HMs together. 2. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. Psyduck's another good one, he can. ~Cut. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. 5 kg (111. TheSmarts 10 years ago #9. But reading this thread Tropius seems like a better choice then Farfetch'd. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. Hope that helps. Ultimate board. Alternatively, Gyarados can be used as an HM slave, as it learns all three Water HMs and Strength. Zymogen. With enough Happiness, Return’s base power can rival moves like Surf and Earthquake. Y'know what, just bring two that allow you to use everything but Waterfall. Braviary and Mandibuzz can both cover cut and fly, and Psyduck covers the other 4 HMs. Oct 14, 09 at 7:47pm (PST) ^. Premium Powerups. Pockets |. Dive Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Black & White, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. 6. re: Best HM Slave? Bibarel and Tropius are the best two to use. Mew is the obvious choice. So far I like using Linoone. 3. Whats your go to? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Teach this Pokemon Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, and Flash. Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate's two. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. 1. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. 56. 1. Well Psyduck is an awesome HM Slave - it learns Surf, Strength, Flash, Whirlpool and Waterfall. Below are all the Pokémon from Gold, Silver & Crystal with the HMs they can learn. No, there isn't. i have cut/fly/strength on him. For starters, Gyarados and Sharpedo have the same HM learned with 5, while Tentacruel only has 4, not having access to Rock Smash and. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Skarmory is also a recommed HM slave because he can learn cut, fly, defog and rock smash meaning u can learn other important HM for the other 3. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. Return is STAB. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good. I started to play it today, and I'm gonna plan wich pokémon are going to be in my team. For those remaining hms, most flying types can learn both. I wouldn't just call the police, I would call the police. u can transfer a bibarel from platinum to blaclk/white as it is the best hm slave whcih can learn all movesSwampert (Rock Climb, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool) and Skarmory (Rock Smash, Fly, Cut and Flash) are my HM slaves. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Surf & Strength) In Pokémon Yellow, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are easiest Pokémon to obtain that can both learn Surf and Strength. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. Dragonite. There needs to be a hack where Cut is 100 / 100 grass or steel. The aim of slaves are to have all of the HM's that you need on your specific route in the smallest amount of pokemon possible. In my opinion, Bibarel is the best HM slave in every game. "Until the end. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. Itsu demo sono egao. B/W really removed the need for HM slaves. Usefulness is at 150%. #1. Add your answer. ~ SmashBurb said this somewhere. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me. And even the newest remakes of the gen I games, Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, didn’t bring back HMs. Mew can learn all the HMs and also has more than 450 Base Power, so if you're lucky enough to have one,. so you wouldn't need an hm slave. Nidoking/Nidoqueen. Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate's two. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. Not sure what pokemon can learn both of those besides Mew. Nah Mew is to stupidly hard to get for me. It makes a great HM slave with STAB Surf and Fly. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. Both Kabutops and Aerodactyl suffer from poor movepools. If you get good at making excuses, it's difficult to get good at anything else. Apr 7, 2010. Then my polywhirl knows. Barring Mew & Arceus of course. You can also try out the different combos and see which Pokemon can learn what move:. #5. Or vigoroth. 1 Crawdaunt. I don't like having an HM slave. In case of move pool: oshawatt is best Also good hm slave. Cut: Ilex Forest (catch runaway Farfetch'd) Fly: Cianwood City (Gym - from Chuck's wife after defeating Chuck)Mew is the obvious choice. Where to find the HMs in Black 2/White 2. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. Playstation All-Stars is the best game ever made. ago. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. 8. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. 10 hm slave heartgold: Editor Recommended #Azumarill is the bulky water-type of the team, and another check against water/ice that could threaten tyranitar and garchomp. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. . This is the place where you can give your Pokémon to. All of these Pokemon should be obtainable relatively early. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Where to find the HMs in FireRed/LeafGreen. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. The reason it is so annoying is. Shadow Ball is coverage. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Pockets |. Dragonite isn't worth being an HM slave. Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). In addition to what Technical Machines do — teaching Pokémon certain attacks anytime the player wants, they also grant important functions outside of battles such that players cannot complete the game without them. See moreBest HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the. Best answer. HM Locations. Imagine like 125 Atk/Def and 30 spatk and spdef or something with 90 speed. I mean Fly is a good move so it's not that bad to have it on a Pokémon. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. a Arty2, owner of Legendary Pokémon . Thanks. . Farfetch'd. Tentacool and Tropius learn all of the. ago. Magmar, while outclassed as an HM Slave, can use its decent speed, offensive stats and movepool to reliably and quickly sweep the Elite 4, which is the fastest way of generating money in all Gen 3 games. Krabby is a Water-type Pokémon and it’s best known for its rapid speed and aggression. PokéBase starter. The best HM Slaves that can be found in Hoenn are Linoone and Sharpedo. Smeargle isn't the easiest HM slave to employ, as he can't learn HMs from your inventory like other troops. Oh wow according to serebii, sentret can learn: Cut, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool. Thank you Bibarel, you’re a true friend. And as others have already said, HMs are almost. . So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Do you even use a HM Slave? For Platinum I use Bidoof for Cut, Strength, Rock Smash and Rock Climb and teach Starly Fly and Defog. King_Michal 13 years ago #7. TM-wise, it should be taught Scald very soon and potentially Rain Dance at level 34. It can learn Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Flygon is the powerhouse of the team (it's worth training up. For this game Watchog and Swanna have become the slaves, between them all HMs are covered (except Waterfall) also the former HMs rock. As the first Pokémon games, Red/Blue introduce 5 Hidden Machines that are used in order to progress through the game. I've currently got my HMs spread over a few semi useless 'mons that I had available, but I'm getting to the point now where I want to level up my Larvitar and Extremespeed Dratini to get them E4 ready, which with my 3 far-too-low-level HM. knows false. Thank you! nincada • 11 yr. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. How longe are you a slave? A slave was a slave for life. Pokemon Diamond Version. PokeCommunityHey! Your account is not linked! Get you trainer hat by linking your account here!However, Bibarel, being Normal-Water type, is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. ago. skarm. He could just have really low special stats, and high attack and defense. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Yeah there's a house with the move deleter, re-learner, and tutor. Actually, as it turns out, the only HM you need to get fully through the game is Cut. 6 HMs are guaranteed, but whether Flash and Rock Smash will return as HMs is a bit uncertain. Mr_Yooj 7 years ago #2. I used Linoone. Looks like I'll need two. -Rocksmash. Official Mawile of the Pokemon Boards. since: Mar 2009. Top Voted Answer. I've heard that Sentret is a good HM slave. Charizard @ Charcoal/Sharp Beak. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. Fenor • 13 yr. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. Imma say bidoof/bibarel. - Tropius for Cut, Fly, Strength, and Flash - Marill for Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Dive Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100 I was wondering who the two best non-legendary HM slaves are in Fire Red that can be obtained without much difficulty. *fistbump*. Secretpower will outdamage Acid against anything that isn't a Grass type, as long as it's not a Grass/Poison type. It's written in JavaScript to ensure cross-system. 3 lbs). 10. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Slap flash on something just for Dark Cave, keep something with Cut in your 6th slot, and other than that you aren't hurting anything by. I had a shiny bibarel as my slave in diamond. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. #1. . Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. Mitholan 8 years ago #5. Bibarel. It takes too long to level up and in Gen 2 Dratini is only obtained late and at a very low level compared to the rest of your team. TRADING BOARD for HeartGold/Soulsilver. Who are the good HM Slaves? Rufflet is a good Pokemon to hold Fly, Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash (Not an HM, but once was). Since it's impossible to have one pokemon with every HM: Which pokemon, that can learn the most commonly used/needed HM's, makes the best HM slave? So far I like using Linoone. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment HighwayWizard • Additional comment actions. . I'm not sure, but Swanna and Pelipper can learn Fly or Surf. I remember Zigzagoon was in RS but I'm not sure about this one. " - The citizens of Palmacosta. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. And the best HM slave is Mew, but as gb said a grass and water Pokemon will do fine. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. Top 10 HM Slaves in Pokémon. my HM slave is a mew Zabuzadono 15 years ago #13 Bibarel can learn 6: Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb Pelliper learns 3: Fly, Surf, DeFog Bibarel: Cut Rock Smash Waterfall Rock Climb / Strength Pelliper: Fly Surf DeFog Roost / Stockpile Strength/Rock Climb can be learned by a bunch of useful critters. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. So if you have a Charizard, you can use fly even if you don't teach it that move. So, this time, I decided to catch a Marril as an HM slave, and decided to name it "Oh no! It" so…The best HM slaves are Skarmory and Bibarel. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Urvilan • 2 yr. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. - Salamence, can get before second gym as Bagon in Forlorn Cape. However, they are useful in most areas to access extras like items behind. This brings us to this ranking of the best HM Slaves in Kanto. Linoone, the best hm slave. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. Which HM slaves are best to use in Heartgold? Tropius, Golduck, and Furret are some of the best HM slaves to use in Heartgold. but I find a team of 6 equally powerful Pokemon a slightly better advantage than just 5 and an HM slave who won't be able to much. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. . Solid_Snake420. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. Rock smash gets replaced within 2 badges. I think the best HM mules are Psyduck and either Braviary or Mandibuzz. -Cut. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. Flash and Defog are for the weak. Save your valediction, Steiner. Pokemon Gaia Archived post. It can learn HM 1,3, and 5. Best answer. Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. marill is also good. Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. Like there are so few ways and most are a bunch of work or Money. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. He also has a 1% encounter rate so you're better off leveling a Drantini or a Dragonair. It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. I use Rayquaza for Fly so that HM isn't needed in any others. Best answer. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. See the discussion at PokéCommunity!Best HM slave kind of depends on what it is you want them to know; Bibarel is probably the best HM slave ever, but not even he can fly. credit to a liikala post. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. An HM, or Hidden Machine, is similar to a TM in Pokemon. See quote for information about quotes. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. . PokeCommunityThe HM abilities should be entirely separate from a Pokemon's moves. It's finding rate is 7%, but it's worth the effort. Linoone (and Zigzagoon) continue to reign supreme as the best and most reliable. • 2 yr. Cut+Flash+Rock Smash: Paras, Tangela, Bulbasaur, Mew. Looking for 2 pokemon 2 share 7 of 8 hm's between them. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. 489 posts, 11/11 2:33AM. Sharpedo is the fastest surfer though. 74 new. A decent flyer is Swanna, if you have it or Fletchling. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. It knows Cut, Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. Swanna - HM Surf - Hm Dive - HM Fly Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength If you want a pokemon from any region: Bibarel - HM Cut - HM Strength - HM Surf - HM Dive - HM Waterfall - TM/HM Rock SmashInstereo2 15 years ago #2. It can search for possible movesets and can be used to create a new strategical combo, find a counter for a tough opponent, look for the best HM slave or even as a moveset validator. Braviary and Watchog. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Of course, in a game like FireRed, where you absolutely need certain HMs to proceed, most people would agree that HM Slaves. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. This is a joke look at TC. 15 Relicanth Relicanth is a relatively unsurprising inclusion. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). Mandibuzz can learn Fly and Cut. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New; Controversial; Q&A; Add a Comment. Pokémon Black & Pokémon White actually cut back the number of HMs from previous games, from eight in Generation 4 down to six. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. gbchaosmaster 14 years ago #2. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still. Bibarel and Lopunny are decent options. If you can get one, Smeargle can Sketch any move, and you can. See quote for information about quotes. Krabby was introduced in Generation 1 and it is nicknamed the River Crab Pokémon. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Where to find the HMs in HeartGold/SoulSilver. I only used an HM slave once. . The funniest thing is that Yamcha is still in the team, he became an HM slave. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. Furret and Licktung can each learn every HM but Fly. Linoone evolves from Zigzagoon at level 20. I have open slots, so I'm open to carrying 2 HM Slaves. Vancityriot • 13 yr. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. HM artwork for Pokémon Red and Green. jolly_pickles 14 years ago #4. NNID: Surgemaster140 | 3DS FC: 0044 - 3133 - 9479. GalladetheGreat 11 years ago #2. 12. Pokemon FireRed Version. Quagsire. machamp. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Friend Codes - Exchange Here 2023! 50 posts, 11/4 4:59PM. Hidden Machines (HMs) in FireRed/LeafGreen. NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. mew is best hm slave. geebeedrill 14 years ago #3. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. ago. Answers. In Pearl. Gen 2. (message deleted) acwwpowns 11 years ago #2. rampardose. This list will lay out some of the best Pokémon to catch specifically for HM use. 5 3. Can Marill be B tier for being such a great HM. Advertisement Coins. The other Gyarados I use it as an elemental slave - attacks are an. source source Linoone is good. Add your answer. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. Rock Smash. You don't need an HM slave in this game. 2 votes. Nidoking/nidoqueen get fantastic HM variety, and their bulk plus the poison point ability makes them very viable switch-ins in battle even if their moveset is all HM’s. ManicOwl • 11 yr. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. Ironchar • 4 yr. R - Official Slowpoketail Vendor. ago. We need some HM slave appreciation. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Well, bidoof's stats end up being the strongest, with a base total of 250. Best HM slave combo? David80008 13 years ago #1. I will always love my Level 18 Bibarel that KO'd Cynthia's Garchomp. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. This message was certified by priestfromhell. 4. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. -Henry Louis Mencken. 4 luiga u should have fly , surf , whirlpool , water fall. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. matt-nicklin posted. missing yamu since he didn't wanna show up in the safari zone and then the evolved forms of a bit of stuff. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use.