Not many Pokemon qualified to your requirements, so I jotted down some of the best options. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. I know this is from 5 years ago but what the hell why do you use your STARTER as an HM slave. Technical Machines. Btw, the Victreebell is actually an Excadrill. No, Mew is, but Dragonite's pretty good, too, as it can learn every HM. Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. Nidoking/Nidoqueen. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. 12. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. You could just as easily stock up on Repels and take the long way around. Top 10 HM Slaves in Pokémon 1. If this was treated as a serious competitive challenge against the Dragon League rather than a training session, I would have replaced Yamcha with someone. It is fairly typical to be perplexed regarding which hm slave heartgold to buy. with pokèsav magikarp is an excellent hm slave. It is a Water/Normal-type, meaning the majority of HMs will have a STAB when used in battle. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. Surf is also coverage but it is an HM to boot. Go Phillies! 0___0 (Topic Creator) 14 years ago #8. #13. I'm sure the HM slave is obvious. *fistbump*. GalladetheGreat 11 years ago #2. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. It can learn almost every HM. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. Braviery was a great HM slave in White 2, being able to do fly and the land based ones but couldn't do any of. skarm. . AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. KillerFugu • 4 yr. Pokemon FireRed Version. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. Image via The Pokemon Company. I know, I’m a hypocrite. Well, bidoof's stats end up being the strongest, with a base total of 250. FC: 2595-1420-5740. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. Introduction. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. Or you can use HM Gyarados (Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Waterfall) and give Cut to a Pokemon with an open moveslot. The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. Link to comment. Mario Maker 2 ID: Q7Q-99K-LLG. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. It's finding rate is 7%, but it's worth the effort. Reply. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. Urvilan • 2 yr. I'm starting a new game and have forgotten about HM Slaves, any ideas? Thanks in advance. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Welcome to the Masquerade. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Hidden Machines (HMs) in Black/White. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). The two cover every HM. It can learn HM 1,3, and 5. Hiyakkie on the. Strength can get replaced before you even find the HM. Best HM slaves of all times Boards Pokemon Scarlet Best HM slaves of all times Topic Archived Page 1 of 3 Next Last Product Deals See All Amazon $49. Thing is, Surf is a good attack and it is very likely you'll have a Water type on your team able to use this. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. Urvilan • 2 yr. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. Farfetch'd - cut - fly Best. in Pokemon emerald nincada is a good hm slave but in Pokemon pearl flash is not an hm. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Game Freak removed HMs in gen 7 and replaced them with PokéRides. Pokemon X/Y - Best HM SlaveBEST HM Slave you can get in Pokemon X/Y because you get it very early on or from wonder trade easily!pokemon sun/moon best hm sla. Where to find the HMs in X/Y. ago. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Braviary and Mandibuzz can both cover cut and fly, and Psyduck covers the other 4 HMs. Hidden Machines, abbreviated as HMs and also known as Secret Machines, are items shaped like VCDs or DVDs. selected Sep 28, 2014 by Legend Of Lotad. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. This list will lay out some of the best Pokémon to catch specifically for HM use. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. HM Locations. Cut. • 2 yr. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Sturdge666 • Time to sweep some bitches • 11 yr. . 2. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Tentacool can be used for Surf, Waterfall, Whirlpool and Cut. Where to find the HMs in HeartGold/SoulSilver. It makes a great HM slave with STAB Surf and Fly. #1. Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire increases the number of HMs from X/Y, bringing back Rock Smash and Dive. found out dabura is pretty much the best HM slave. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. NNID: Surgemaster140 | 3DS FC: 0044 - 3133 - 9479. 5. Instead of cut, you get a pair of shears; instead of surf, you get a foldable canoe; instead of fly, you get access to teleporters in PokeCenters, etc. SS FC: 1892 3402 3141. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Thing is, Surf is a good attack and it is very likely you'll have a Water type on your team able to use this. ago. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. Is Bidoof a good HM slave? Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. If you can get a couple Mews, they're the best HM slaves you'll ever get. The two cover every HM. 3kSharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. for damages!" Lootenstein 13 years ago #7. then aqua for surf and waterfall. Bibarel. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. best HM slave? MegaArceus 7 years ago #1. In addition to what Technical Machines do — teaching Pokémon certain attacks anytime the player wants, they also grant important functions outside of battles such that players cannot complete the game without them. 489 posts, 11/11 2:33AM. The preevolutions of Hydreigon are useless as HM Slaves, only learning Strength. marill is also good. Cut, Strength, Waterfall, RockSmash, etc. I was wondering, what is the best early and solid HM slave you could get? First time playing gen4 so not that much knowledge on it. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. 1 Answer. They have. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. Well, the 4 main HMs you need to get through the game are. Best HM slave combo? David80008 13 years ago #1. Boards. It just had to be in party. But my HM Gyarados can still fight well in battle, so I don't usually encounter this problem. Swanna - HM Surf - Hm Dive - HM Fly Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength If you want a pokemon from any region: Bibarel - HM Cut - HM Strength - HM Surf - HM Dive - HM Waterfall - TM/HM Rock SmashInstereo2 15 years ago #2. Also: Dig and thief. I will always love my Level 18 Bibarel that KO'd Cynthia's Garchomp. Useful Posts. The best team: - Jirachi, can get before second gym doing a sidequest. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. " - The citizens of Palmacosta. XBLGT: LeviAJones. i dont remamber if the water stater can no rock climb i beleave he can but i dont remamber. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. ~ SmashBurb said this somewhere. Major Battles:. Sludge Bomb may have decent power, but it's still not worth using ingame just to hit Exeggutor (or nothing at all). I used Smeargle as my HM slave. But none of these are flying types obviously. Y'know what, just bring two that allow you to use everything but Waterfall. Flygon - Steel Wing - Fly - Dragon Claw - Crunch / Earthquake. Gen 2. Reply1 Answer. Their pre-evolution, Nidoran, can be found in Route 9 with a combined encounter rate of 60%. It also has Pickup. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. Hidden Machines (HMs) in Red/Blue/Yellow. Good thing Unova never really needed HM slaves, and the HMs you do use a lot are decent in-game AND could be stuck on my team. 7 m (5′07″) tall and weighs 50. Swmapert can also be an HM slave. I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. Fly is 90 /100. Slap flash on something just for Dark Cave, keep something with Cut in your 6th slot, and other than that you aren't hurting anything by. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. Rattata is the fastest, and has the strongest moves. EJ902 14 years ago #5. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. Best answer. View source. Actually many prefer Bibarbel and Tropius. Let the record show that I'm a gaming atheist! Do a barrel roll! priestfromhell 13 years ago #2. Not changing my signature until America deals with its B. Flash and Defog are for the weak. I doubt Rock Climb will remain an HM in HgSs, and Fly is a good-enough move in-game to teach to the physical Flying-type on your team, since there's no risk of an in-game trainer switching to a Rock/Steel/Electric-type and setting up. 1. K I wait and See. yzman 11 years ago #8. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. -5xad0w- 7 years ago #3. ago. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. Wish I had a Mew for this. 1. This difficulty occurs because to the wide variety of hm slave heartgold available on the market. Major Battles: It beats Clay save Excadrill and sweeps the other Gyms barring the 8th due to Haxorus. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. Nature doesnt matter to much as Swampert is more or less an HM slave - Surf (HM) - Dive/Waterfall (Switch as neccessary (HM)). Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. (n. rampardose. Friend Codes - Exchange Here 2023! 50 posts, 11/4 4:59PM. Top 10 HM Slaves in Pokémon. For starters, Gyarados and Sharpedo have the same HM learned with 5, while Tentacruel only has 4, not having access to Rock Smash and. It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. and the HMs they can learn? i've got surf already on my starter. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. Alternatively, Gyarados can be used as an HM slave, as it learns all three Water HMs and Strength. source sourceLinoone is good. This makes Marill a good HM slave throughout the whole game, unlike stuff like Tropius, which comes kind of late, and Zigzagoon, which can't learn any of the late-game HMs. Even then, you don’t need Fly to run Red/Blue. I know Nintendo tends to make Pokemon slow if they want to make them stronger in other aspects, but they could just give this thing uneven stats. HM Locations. 1. Zigzagoon is good. Bibarel is the best HM slave the game has ever seen, and you can get Bidoof the second you start the playthrough. Posted November 14, 2017. However, I would like to delete some of the HM moves (so I can give Feraligatr a move like Earthquake instead of Cut) and put them all on one or two particular Pokemon. but I find a team of 6 equally powerful Pokemon a slightly better advantage than just 5 and an HM slave who won't be able to much. Other than taking the Bibarel route for HM Slaves, 2 really easy pokemon that you can get your hands on that make great slaves are Gyarados and Pinsir. Tentacruel, Kabutops, Lanturn, Quagsire, Suicune, Crawdaunt, Empoleon, and Mew are some of the best results accorting to this. 4. You need Rock smash to get through Rustboro tunnel and route 111, Strength to get through victory road, Surf to get across many routes, Waterfall to get to the league, and Dive to get to Sootopolis. Puzzle and Dragons 303941291. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. I decided to go with Pancham as my HM slave for now. I mean Fly is a good move so it's not that bad to have it on a Pokémon. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to. 3DS FC: 5370-0398-2889. 2. 12. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. D =Dragonite= New Member. Pockets |. problem. See quote for information about quotes. Strength. Golduck has webbed feet, making it a fast swimmer. discdeath • 13 yr. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. Thank you! nincada • 11 yr. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. . This nickname is tied to a Pokemon mechanic known as the Hidden Machine, or. TM31 (Brick Break) Brick Break was typically one of the best TMs in Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. [deleted] • 4 yr. I like using Farfetch'd and Golduck. B. To Sharpedos and Linoones everywhere, we say thankyou. commented Sep 28, 2014 by Legend Of Lotad. I guess Flash too. Do you even use a HM Slave? For Platinum I use Bidoof for Cut, Strength, Rock Smash and Rock Climb and teach Starly Fly and Defog. BRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! If it is strenghth in attack/special attack/speed/moves, than I think rattata. he can learn rock smash, rock climb, strengh,. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. If memory serves, Bibarel and Tropius learn all 8 HMs together. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. In my opinion, Bibarel is the best HM slave in every game. Delightfully enough, not necessary in this game because you get key item replacements quickly. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. that seems to be the kicker for the best ones. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Strangely, the HM Dive is not available, nor are there any areas in which it can be used. Pockets |. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Don't get mad, get gllad. Charizard - Cut, Fly, Dig/Earhtquake, Flamethrower. Also you may want an HM slave to carry the weak HMs like Rock-smash and Cut. Krabby has an Attack stat of 1 and a base friendship of 50. Mine: : r/pokemonuranium. I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. skarmory is one of the best but you can only get it. They can also learn rock smash and evolve at level 15. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. This is due to Fighting’s great coverage against the Elite Four and Steven. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. " The use of wild Pokémon for HMs in the remakes is a brilliant solution as it maintains the feel of the classic adventures while fixing one of the game's biggest issues. We will live to see another day. Linoone (HG/SS Only). Dragonite can learn Fly Surf Waterfall Strenght HMs. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. It can search for possible movesets and can be used to create a new strategical combo, find a counter for a tough opponent, look for the best HM slave or even as a moveset validator. 3DS FC/Name: 4828-4041-0022/C Pokemon Y IGN: Termiine/ Safari: Grumpig Espurr Duosion. . Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). The “best hm pokémon fire red” is a question about which Pokémon can learn all HM moves in the game. Mitholan 8 years ago #5. I always love my HM slaves just as much as any other of my Pokemon. Pokemon Gaia Archived post. Golduck learns all but Cut and Fly. 1 vote. Best answer. since you don't really need flash, you can use farfetch'd for fly and cut and then psyduck for the rest. Starting anew after one year of contemplation. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment HighwayWizard • Additional comment actions. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. ~Waterfall. Rock smash and Flash should be relegated to hm slaves. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. The reason it is so annoying is. HM mule. No. DUFES - 13 years ago - report. I have come to the conclusion that Gyarados is the most optimal HM slave you listed. - Tropius for Cut, Fly, Strength, and Flash - Marill for Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Dive Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100 I was wondering who the two best non-legendary HM slaves are in Fire Red that can be obtained without much difficulty. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. Soaring was the best part of ORAS and not because it was fun, or added all those new places, but because I no longer have to forcibly work a Pokémon that knows fly into my team. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. asked Nov 13, 2014 by VaporeonBlue. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to. What's the best HM slave? kenneth7415 13 years ago #1. Shadow Ball is coverage. Can Raticate learn surf? Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate’s two. 1 Answer. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. 7. - Tropius for Cut, Fly, Strength, and Flash - Marill for Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and DiveMagcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100pikachu092 15 years ago #8. 1. Tarvos for stuff. Sleep Powder. Pokémon X & Y strips back the HM count to just five, using the same first five as Generation 5. ago. Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). Give me a min and I'll find an article (not a leak). Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. I use 2 for HM's I make Seedot use Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, then he has Hidden Power to make bases. my HM slave is a mew Zabuzadono 15 years ago #13 Bibarel can learn 6: Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb Pelliper learns 3: Fly, Surf, DeFog Bibarel: Cut Rock Smash Waterfall Rock Climb / Strength Pelliper: Fly Surf DeFog Roost / Stockpile Strength/Rock Climb can be learned by a bunch of useful critters. Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate's two. We need some HM slave appreciation. As the first Pokémon games, Red/Blue introduce 5 Hidden Machines that are used in order to progress through the game. Pokémon Black & Pokémon White actually cut back the number of HMs from previous games, from eight in Generation 4 down to six. Cut, Thief, Strength, Surf. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. My Pickup Linoone. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. Best HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the bunch like surf, fly and waterfall. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. My team is already full. I hope this helps. Sentret is the worst in every way. And as others have already said, HMs are almost. Dive Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Black & White, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. I dont run from fights so having some easy 30pp cut i can knock. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. Fly. If you can get online I'd give you a Skarmory and you could just catch the Bibarel yourself. Linoone, the best hm slave. If you get good at making excuses, it's difficult to get good at anything else. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. 3DS FC: 0602-6357-6814. Best. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). now thoes are 2 good hm slave strategys. . Members; 2. O. A solo-run is essentially a version of the game where you invent your own rules to follow.