premium non ethanol fuel helps. You can check/eliminate the harness as a cause by taking off the cowling and disconnecting the spade connectors at the coils. MMT 1000 Club. Sumter, South Carolina. The bearings are in the flared housings on the outdrive. I would 1. Personal preference. 3 blade harder to spin than 2 blade if everything is equal. Let's talk Pro-Drive Upgrades. You can adjust the idle circuit needles as well. Location: Mandeville, LA. More of any 3 makes a 2 or 3 blade "harder to turn". Re: Hoss 75. On the longtail - only grease the U-joints a tad every 20 or 30 hours - but. 2 people and gear 23. Most Briggs motors that have electric start have a 16 amp alternator. Cut the wires as close to the switch as possible and splice the two ends together. _____ 1554 excel- custom MB sport totin a stage II generac temporarily 20XRD Bullet- 300X Merc: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:21 pm: Chico80x. Jimj. The next run was teal opener morning. Its good to check it regularly 25 to 50 hours. Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 am. It was wild. Re: 22hp predator starter issue. The frame and engine design of GD, MB, and GT keeps the engine and muffler above the frame and much higher from the saltwater than the PD. MMT Addict. 125 boat in all honesty. Also duck hunting these waters too. The propeller must run in a floating position. Pro staff: Pop Tarts, Little Debbie, Armour Vienna Sausage! Just an old duck hunter that grew up hunting from Moes lake to McGirts Lake in beautiful Sparkleberry Swamp. . Mikuni carb not getting fuel. 2. Re: SeaDek vs AquaTraction. 2012 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run Hotties. MMT Member. I may try a larger SPS prop, their cheap enough to experiment with!Anyways this is basically going to be a duck hunting motor on a rather large hull. Hi everyone! I'm new to both mudmotortalk and to mud boats. Get the 40, if you want an exhaust buy one, personally the stock 40 exhaust is pretty loud. _____MMT Member. Joined: Thu Nov 04. I live in Oklahoma hunt waterfowl on lakes and rivers. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. New to the forum and mud boats. 2. Then sew up the breast and then I am legal. I've been emailing Uncle-J about building a boat. Duck bill is nice for flooded timber and it cut through some flooded willow tops like butter. Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:39 pm. MMT Member. The area we both hunt has mostly hard sand bottom and the these other types of frame design seem to run the shallow hard sand a tad bit better than the PD due to the skeg. The clone is the honda clone 11 hp that would come with the twister kit. . Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF Location: Slidell, LA. Board index » MMT Main Forums » The Duck Blind. But if you have a non CDI motor, advance timing key. This is not a race, it is not a poker run, it is just a cruise. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pm: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pmYou can run royal purple, it's expensive, but there are others just as good for much cheaper. I have seen bad connections where the wire meets the connectors. moved to a 1544/ 25 HP GD, and now a 1648/27 HP MB. Almost all builders count the hunt deck as part of the length. Share. It works pretty well and I put my gps mount on the adjustable. Re: Mods for my 23 go devil longtail? Mods on a 23 longtail , I did them on my swomp from backwater . Put a crescent on the top nut against ur cavation plate and put a big crowbar between the blades on prop. "There's nothing a duck hunter hates more than another duck hunter. 35+hp GDSD engine mods by George Merta 18x48 GDSD boat: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:00 amSpecial thanks to the ladies for their participation and we thank you especially for making one of the most beautiful places on Earth, a little bit more on t. The grease in the grease piston is leaking around the plunger within the piston, not a big deal, but it is annoying. Mud Buddy 37efi HDR Tall transom. I’m most likely running my 3 blade prop until duck season. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk 2. _________________. 1754 Gator Trax Hybrid, Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:58 pm: Hogjaw. Location: carrollton MS. An 18’ boat has never kept me from going anywhere a 17’ boat could go. Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. Stable as hell. (completes to ground). Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:39 pm: 50fps. In 1989 Shannon "Mac"" McKinney came to my platoon in Cco 3/75 Ranger. DUCK HEARSE. Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 am. It really makes a little difference when paired with a worked prop but only after the skeg has been cut. 2:1 as I want more torque. The Sparkle Berry Duck Run he is talking about doesn't occur during duck season. 5hp but it bogs down easily and doesnt go much faster than a paddle when pushing a full load. Put the opposite bullet connection Male/female on the other end of the short section of wire. Re: 13 hp beaver dam longtail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk _____ "Two people in this world wear helmets, and that's dare devils and pussies. But I have a outboard boat for most of the summer and fishing season anyway. MMT 1000 Club. ProDrive EFI and LA Sportsman Show. I found a guy selling a 2013 Mud Buddy 5500 Black Death with around 90 hours on it for about $5500. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. I have the stock two blade prop. 7 MPHLast visit was: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:51 pm: It is currently Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:51 pmLocation: Beaumont, Texas. Re: bent pushrod 4400 HDR MudBuddy. On a stock motor I was turning a big blade 3800 bout 21-22 mph. Please Help! Leak test to make sure the valves are sealing, and also make sure your coil is Firing. Re: Prodrive won't get up to speed. Re: 36 Prodrive clutch issue. thanks man. Mud-Skipper with Predator 420 prop question. Posts: 16. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm: It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm Location: Gladewater TX. Go devil 27hp surface drive opinions/reviews. From the box it was only getting 3100-3200 RPM in water. MMT 1000 Club. Went frogging a few times last week. I run the above load plus 2 guys 250 lb each with about 2 dozen dekes plus guns and shells. Re: 22 HP Predator Longtail to Surface Drive. Posts: 8133. Re: Damn you 25 efi! The 25 will run on an 18x40, Gator tail sells 18x40's with either the 25hp or 35hp option. Just know that has no association. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Hate to spend the extra $$ on a GD Brand, but I have been a loyal customer and am a little. 300 lb i verified my scale with olympic plate weight. Posts: 10388. Exhaust, EVT or BPS are your options on the kohler. Also if others run across additional information, please add to it. So one to ground and one to the wire that grounds it out. MMT Addict. Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:19 am. It appears that more and more Prodrive owners are making the swap to this engine and are hitting me up for information. Never hurt anything that I know of. I didn't want a skiff with lots of flare and rake, instead, I wanted a rig for busting through water lillies and getting in tight. They use Kohler engines: 7, 9. Second went maybe at 55 hours got that from PD also. What I wanna know is if the prodigy that I have is any tougher than his 1651 exel. The more you talk about hunting areas on the internet, the more crowded they are going to be. The motor died and wouldn't restart. 7" SPS aluminum prop ( Dont hate unless you wanna buy me a stainless one!) 11 mph top speed by myself on a 14x36 Duracraft. I went to the Northwest Sportshow today and there was an Aquatraction booth. The interior is 17 feet. SC Ducks Forum. Copperhead 18 HP. I run a stage 3 and no problems, just keep up on my pm's on motor and outdrive. There are some things/considerations on some brands, (for example a BPS crossover exhaust doesn't work well with the GT plastic clutch cover) but carb kits. Run it on a fiberglass Indian River canoe. I've got a 2011 36hp Pro Drive. Mine was really easy. has a seperate red wire lead attached on the side of key switch. Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:10 am. i want the fastest and lightest boat possible. MMT Pro Member. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. I believe that it is but I want y'all's opinion. im not going to jump on anything when im ready ill have until next season to decide but ive read a ton of good things about the copperhead pushing a big load very. With a CDI, advance timing key ($3-$5) but not more than a #4. 3 blade prop: max speed 26. Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:09 am Posts: 105. Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 am. The hardest wheels are prodrive and go devil wheels. you are correct, grease and oil are 2 different things. They claimed 18-20 mph I could barely bump 13. a little bit of closed cell foam flotation in a 16 foot duck boat is going to do absolutely nothin in the big muddy. The go devil 27hp is the motor I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on. Add $500 for BPS crossover muffler. Re: Outboard vs Surface Drive. in the first duck commander video (made back in 1988) they used a long tail go devil. Just curious if my speed sounds about right. " Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:25 pm: nick2720. Sometimes we use a rope come-a-long to go over a logjam or a beaver dam. Mikuni will get you a better idle. Location: Jefferson TX. I'm running one. The 2 blade is for duck season in serious tough conditions as well as heavy loads. Location: Muscatine, Iowa. All functions ok but does not seem "right". 3 more push than 2 at same rpm. Cooler, wife and black dog of 82#. Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 am. The blind fit rather good out of the box. You can apply GatorGlide over factory paint jobs with the same prep, sand and wipe with acetone. . Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:54 pm. Location: Meraux, LA. But any paint job is only as good as the surface you're painting. I'd say your speeds are pretty good for a 13hp thai kit. I currently have a big blade and can run 4600-4700 rpms with 2-3 people. i want to upgrade to the godevil duck skiff. Maybe playing here and there throughout the year. DIY about +-$1800. MMT Addict. I understand this is not the best boat for the motor, I'm having a different one built but this is it for now. Re: 27hp Kohler GoDevil. Re: Kem 400. Have NO complaints shows no wear after 25hrs with some mud use. I've had one of these motors - sold it to a friend who still has it. It is my first true hunting boat. Re: What’s the best performance hull for a pro drive? My 1685lb hull performs really good steering and driving in chop and up curving creeks. MMT Member. Mikuni carb to much fuel. Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:06 pm. The mod v front handles some ms river chop well and the boat felt safe. -Light Load: Me (185 lbs), 6 gallons of gas, and a prop that's worn a bit - 32. Re: Prodrive Clutch. MMT Super Elite Member. Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 am: da go get'er. Re: killswitch problems. now you see. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. It will be going in a 1436 flat bottom. Gator tail duck blind on a 2021 1854 extreme gt boat. Have you greased the lower unit lately? I ask because you could have over greased it and there is grease on the clutch. Re: Mud Buddy Sport V Problems. My hull is 2013 and has a few blemishes on the bottom. I know a copperhead would be better but a new one is not in my budget and there are no used ones around me. By the mid-eighties, the peak number of ducks overwintering in the Santee National Wildlife Refuge, which borders Sparkleberry Swamp, had dropped to just over 20,000. banded double sprig pintail/BROOKS. 00 per year. I let the motor idle and bump it into and out of gear when picking up decoys in deeper water. Seriously considering buying the new 5000EFI for my 1851 Prodigy. The carb I used is a 34 mm mikuni round slide . Posts: 94. Bought a MSR Hp AOF pro clutch lever at local motorcycle shop in town. Re: Go Devil ignition system. Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:50 am. They are now 8 months old and have been in formal training for. Well have at lesst 2-3 boats going. Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:04 pm:. Since folks are always asking which prop performs best on a GatorTail, I decided to get a few of the available props and put them to the test side by side in the exact conditions at the exact time to see exactly which prop performs best in different conditions. Re: lost Key. SC Ducks Forum. Re: Powertech 3 Blade. I used to run a BDMR 1st with the predator 13hp, then with a 22hp predator. Which like stated above use to be borderline "fast". Location: Lake Jackson, TX. Subscribe. I run a 9x6 on my 23lt. Did exactly what you're sayin though, runnin fine and then it just killed. Re: Copperhead surface drive help. My motor is a mudbuddy 25 hp but should be pretty close to the same results as you. OP didn't indicate the type of motor or stator, this info is specific to a 35HP briggs. Anyone have one? Looking at getting one for a carstens canvasback. It's a key start. Posts: 606. New Phowler Prowler Ext 1744 Test Results UPDATED w/36 PD!!! Okay, here is the hard data on the new Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744. You need to try before you buy! _____ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327. And like stated above, it took about 3 day of me not doing anything to it before it started to really get rock hard. the original/oem cable on my gator tail is much thicker/beefier. Duck Run. . the props are very tough but very inefficient. Hope that helpsJoined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:19 am. I've had one of these motors - sold it to a friend who still has it. MMT Member. Location: Stuck in the marsh, LA. Location: Rowlett, TX. We got lucky one morning. don't be shy about the main shaft - if it is coming out that fast you may. Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin. Uncle-J Boats. _____ Gator Trax 1644 HD pushed by. I don't believe they are in operation anymore unfortunately. We also have room for more participants! No better way to. You guys that work in the oilfield know about Chinese shackles and how crappy they are. 2014 Prodigy 1754 17' overall length. Completely empty, I'm running 37-38 on my 1848 custom crawfish skiff. When I graduated Ranger School I took the team leader. Look where the pushrod seats under the rocker arm. I built a mud motor similar to a PPF only I added the Backwater Surface Tracer plate. Easy once you get used to it. _________________. Don't use a screw driver it will snap in half. i really would like to find a used rig with a 35 on it in the 16 or 17' range. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. Prop pitch to carry a load and pitch for speed are mutually exclusive to a point. MMT 1000 Club. When trying to get on plane when the motor gets to a certain rpm it sounds like the orop blows out. Posts: 701. That said, both a GD and a Ron Hill 9x6 prop have served me better- meaning I turn a few hundred more. Have a KS 1 switch. Instead of considering the mini, look into the LA Special. Only weighs 165lbs. The mod v front handles some ms river chop well and the boat felt safe. _________________. especially when you say they aren't as crowded as other nearby areas. The stock 22hp Predator is a California emissions engine. Re: PPF wood duck w/ beavertail final attack. Running a 9x6 GD longtail prop. 06-06-2013, 07:33 PM #16. I put no seize back on the threads. I have a 16 hp long tail go devil, and I am curious if anyone else has had this problem. This is a short transom PD Notice the Knuckle is at the transom bracket. My buddy has a mini 23 on a rivited 1542 and was getting 17 mph empty. Then, after your warranty runs up, call Will or Marcus to get heads done. Posts: 16. This video and images were compiled from those taken during the 2012 Duck Run held annually out of Pack's Landing in Rimini SC for the benefit of. DatGator. I did year before last, you got to be in the right spot for sure on Rayburn. MMT Super Elite Member. Frogs. Am not sure how to connect. There will be a lot of people there, but they won't be any off them wearing. Although the gap can vary from . Just depends on what HP you need/want. Might have a loose clutch bolt. All props tested with a cut skeg. Bogs down when I put in water. Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that. (CH25S) on a godevil long tail=mounted on a godevil 16x44 hull. im scared to break off all the rivets and break my hull to hell. I know this isnt a mud-motor but i searched many forums before deciding what blind to buy for my lund alaskan. Re: What’s the best performance hull for a pro drive? My 1685lb hull performs really good steering and driving in chop and up curving creeks. From the box it was only getting 3100-3200 RPM in water. Re: Prodrive Clutch. Location: Amarillo, TX. love it!!! good luck with your new motor. A 2 blade vs a 3 blade. Freeze it until needed. However the cost associated with the blind, and trailer make the 2 ft longer 1838 23hp more expensive than the 1644 27hp rig. MMT 1000 Club. I've read the forums and it seems the 18x56 turns better and has a bit higher sides, but drafts about a quarter inch more water. Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:39 am Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA Re: go. They look pretty well engineered and built. The 25 Kohler mini 195lbs. The majority of the time problems are caused by air leaks, bad primer bulbs, or dirt. Posts: 3833. Also, I've had a few whiskey's. c. Marvin Nichols might come in #3 but that spot may belong to Lake Bonham. Get the 54 width. Re: Dog ramp on floating duck blind. You can remove the 4 screws out of the bottom of the football to reveal the switch wiring. Re: Big Blade vs Hammer on Mud Buddy 5000. Hope this helps someone out there. Location: West Monroe, LA. Only mod is a marshmellow muffler. We ran this motor in controlled tests for two days using the same five men, same water and conditions. It came from the factory with 492932, but I purchased the 842921. A socket-wrench set makes things much quicker. Boys RPM is what kills theese motors,im a reliability kind of guy and like a trouble free hunt. Whatever kind of metal they use is hard as rock. Mines a 2014 had the motor a year with 9 hours on it and it does drip water out the tail end just can't seem to figure out how to get the lower gear off and prop off to get them damn bearings out to check or replace thanks for your input as well I'm in Washington state and hardly a soul up here with a mud motor of any sort or help besides rummaging. I have hunted 2 kids and 2 adults out of the boat comfortably. MMT Addict. Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:57 am Posts: 470 Location: Running between. Specs are. Proceeds will go directly to thr Flyway account. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. 008 - . Iron Mountain heads will need a valve job @50hrs anyway, also there are better builders here. Charles Parish) Pic's of 23GTR. _____ 19x48 Rink/Aucoin Bateau w/35 GTR 20x60 Home-made skiff w/200 Merc: Sun Aug 30. Uncle J Crawfish Skiff. Page 1 of 1. MMT Elite Member. seems too thick. Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes. It's what I run. Want to run shallow too and dry _____ JReese 1754 GatorTrax w/ MB 6000 customized by EVT: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:36. Clutch let go at 48 hours, so I thought it was that again when my rpms went sky high. It takes some elbow grease. On the 16x48 18mph sometimes 19 in deep water. Doubtful that the separator itself is the problem.