If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. 19. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. 6. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. I don’t think that’s an option for us. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. Likes. Log in. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. Likes. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. It did ok. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. ”Log in. Jul 6, 2022. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. 251. 239. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. 4. 1. Could also mean ND is rethinking. 2. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Log in. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. This is the “Tier1” package. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. 21. 1 — and for No. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. MHver3 @MHver3. That was a guarantee. ”GK about to get shipped to China. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. 3. I actually don’t want more western schools. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. @xtmountain. It was $24. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Replying to @Tomkatf14. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. Sign upLog in. “@BobOThomson Yes. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. Huge mistake. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. Retweets. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Replying to. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Houston and BYU applications are in. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. Stanford/Cal 13. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. 23. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. But simply never happens. Now it’s been twice verified. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. @MHver3. 2. Likes. AZ has and AZSU problem. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. Feb 21. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. and @JimUSFSig. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. OMG I was wrong. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. All 3 tiers. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. Also the FB CCG. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. AZ too. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. @MHver3. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. 7. I actually don’t want more western schools. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. There. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. They let UCF pass them up. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. 11. ”@MHver3 · May 25. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. Quote Tweets. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). 5% each. And GK. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. Sign upSee new Tweets. Show more replies. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Would need to probably add 6. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. Likes. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Bradley Berry M. Retweets. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. and @TheAPBerry. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. ” MHver3 @MHver3. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Likes. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. 27. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’ll update as I get more info. Appx $75m per year. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. ·. 5% each. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. MHver3 @MHver3. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. 26. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. 2. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. ”Log in. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. But not the question asked. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. @MHver3. " / Twitter. MHver3 @MHver3. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. 13. 2. Likes. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. that will be accurate. Oregon was the third choice as a. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. They are looking at 1. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. . WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. Retweets. Things have escalated. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. ·. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. 3. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. 6. Their additions brought stability. 11. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 2. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. Retweets. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. OMG I was wrong. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. Amazon gets more first choice. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Washington was their next choice. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. @MHver3. $320m per year for 12 years. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. That’s all I’ve got. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Replying to . That is all. Likes. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Replying to @MHver3. Log in. MHver3 @MHver3. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. @MHver3. ESPN pro-rata is a given. Replying to @Brewenor. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. Retweets. ”Log in. 13. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. Likes. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. 9. 1. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. Sign up. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. MHver3 @MHver3. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Replying to @MHver3. 7h. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. MHver3. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Staples: The realignment battle for No. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. yes they are extending his “deadline”. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. They know. Replying to @MHver3. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Could also mean ND is rethinking. This will be my last tweet for a bit. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. I don’t normally delete anything. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Found. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter.