If its on a riser, then easy to access, if not and judging by your photo it doesnt look like it is, then another option is to cut out a section of the ceiling and access the trap from below. #4. Can I lay ceramic floor tiles directly onto a new chipboard floor or does it need sealing? These are standard 30x30 tiles - what type of adhesive and grout should I use? Thanks. New Member. As well screwing the boards to the joists and gluing the tongues with PVA I ve heard an idea, as an extra measure, of running a. Tags: chipboard floor pipes; Tabs New Member. Optimaxx TX Countersunk Flooring Screws 4mm x 50mm 500 Pack (226TY) (2) compare. Click and Collect is available or enjoy free UK delivery on selected orders over £150 excluding VAT. Click & Collect. Reisser screws and a good quality exterior pva lashed on. Tom40 said: ↑. Hi all, I'm flooring out a loft extension where new joists have been fitted to comply with building regs. Flexible, solvent-free sealant and gap-filler. if you use a circular saw set the blade depth correctly and you won’t hit pipes or cables. Use Bal Fastflex (a 2 part elastomeric), did one the other day straight onto a chipboard floating floor with no overlay. For Interior & Exterior Use. The best way but it's quite final, is to take the floor up completely, apply a polyurethane based glue (egger d4, gator glue, anything that bubbles up) to the joists and to the tongues of the chipboard, then relay the flooring, screwing down each board, three screws over the width of the board. com. Estwing used to make a good one, very ridged and strong and will take lots of abuse. The floors have been in place for a few months, though since laying have been subjected to some messy plasterers (and associated plaster and water spillages) and some effect from heating (which has been on. Just use a circular saw, set the depth to 20mm and cut a small section out between the joists. You must leave at least 50mm, preferably 100mm or more of clearance between the insulation and the board and the eaves and ensure the soffits allow air flow through them. Try the PVA trick and see if it helps, I’m not convinced personally. I’ve removed the old carpet and the underlay and I found that the flooring is chipboards. Once you sand over it you end up with a completely gapless floor. - 10%. Suitable for Domestic Use. Ideal for renovations and extensions, it can be used as a replacement. Belt and braces. stonemasons. Suitable for use on interior surfaces and spot priming of exterior surfaces. 2. Home Tags > chipboard floor. Seals porous surfaces with excellent enamel holdout,. Rob Vincent New Member. 2020 (786) tháng 1 2020 (786) 2019 (849) tháng 12 2019 (606) tháng 11 2019 (128) girls like you OP FLOATING MINECRAFT SHIP! (1v1v1v. I had to do this recently to a loft floor, what I did was to use two screwdrivers (flat blades)Just tap each blade into the board right next to the head of the nail one each side and lever the nail out. 16N/m2K or the equivalent of 270mm of mineral wool/quilt insulation (the most common method of insulating a loft). £122. Chipboard flooring is c*ap. So would a diluted varnish be better than No Nonsense waterproofer? RichardD, 1 minute ago. Fill gaps and blemishes in wood. After lifting some flooring I have discovered 2 layers of 12mm plasterboard under the chipboard which is saturated and has spread quite far including under partitions. Easy to Tool. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. Wirox-coated. This is sitting on an old pine floor supported by joists over a cellar. x 10's then use bal rapidset flexible £25 20kg states. Deep, Sharp, Single Thread for Cutting Cleanly through Wood. Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. 8 or no. Volume. Recently im faced with the task of trying to take up more and more chipboard flooring and was thinking of investing in a good nail puller to remove the recessed nails ? Click to expand. you should not tile direct onto a chipboard floor as the tiles will not stay put for to long, you will need to either get some 12mm marine ply and screw down every 200mm OR you get a hardy backer board 6mm and a flexible tile adhesive screed the floor with the tile adhesive then put the hardy backer board on top of it. DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. My question is whether ot not it is necessary to have the ends/joints supported by joists. £15. Once it's down it's down and if it starts to squeak you're stuffed. Chippy John New Member. I am now given up the way I’m laying the floor as the gap between subfloor chipboard and the laminate floor is becoming bigger and bigger. Hi - just finished something similar in my house, wanted Ufh on the ground floor where we have a joisted floor, but wanted to minimise the floor build up. com. Delivery 7 days a week. 5m rolls available. Competitor stocks Everbuild 503. I've jot a decent jigsaw, but at 2>3mm I imagine the blade is just going to. When the boards are walked upon, the Tri-Lock. Insulate between joists with rigged kingspan. Everywhere that I have read online seems to suggest that underlay for engineered wood flooring is necessary for all floating installations including over chipboard sub-floors. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) (66) compare. 8. Many would just lay 6mm for something like tiling, but then they're not trying to retain levels as in your case. The house was built in around the 1930s. I'm installing some chipboard flooring however my joist centres are 370mm (not 400mm) so I'm having to do a lot more cuts. Quantity. when laying 18mm tongue and groove chipboard flooring(2400 x 600mm), on the short tongue and groove edges, i know all should be glued but do they need to be supported by a joist too?. It becomes flakey past the outer layer and would be a rough finish. I need to replace my existing tongue and groove chipboard floor, due to the current one being warped throughout the flat and squeaking due to loose studs underneath. Pick a noisy joint and mark a line about 25mm from the joint edge on either side. Adaptor & Fixing Pin Connection. Add for Delivery. SterlingOSB Zero T&G FSC 2400 x 625 x 18mm. Click & Collect. The flooring is 22mm chipboard. I am currently putting extra underlay underneath if require additional support. Add for Delivery. Chipboard has no real strength going sideways, so the boards will pull away from any fixings within about 10mm of an edge with relative ease. Add to trolley. #4. Use a nail punch and knock the nails right through and draw a pencil line along the holes that are left. First board will end on joist so it will connect with the next one on the joist etc. Adjust the fit once the mask is on to keep it snugly and comfortably in place. Michal Kloch, Nov 21, 2017. My house is less than 30 years old and has chipboard flooring sheets (2400mm x 600mm) throughout on joists. 5mm x 30mm 200 Pack (16775) (3518) compare. MDF, Hardboard & Pinboard. There was a water leak over 5 years ago which has left the chipboard floor bowed by as much as 6mm where the boards join. Ok, looks a bit of a mess. Andrew Morris Member. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. The bathroom is fairly small 2m x 1. FREE Click & Collect within 30 minutes. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by rcplumber, Nov 13, 2005. 99 Inc Vat. Doea this sound sensible? Can i fo this without securing the new joyce? I dont think i can screw to the concrete slab because of the DPM. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self. !! Active Member. The squeek is often caused by the original nails working loose (and/or the boards shrinking around them) so I would start by making sure that they're all punched in properly. 4. #4. Mof Guest. Buy Floor-Tite Flooring Screws at Screwfix. VAT. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. My current ideas are. Take up the chipboard flooring, ensure there are plenty of noggins between the joists and lay 18mm or 25mm T&G WBP plywood. Similar products. 18mm ain't gonna stop the flexing, especially at joints. This will help to ensure that your vinyl tiles go on well, and produce decent finish. 89 Inc Vat. Deleted member 11267 Guest. bloop the gasman New Member. The underside of the floor is exposed between the trusses and I'm wanting to paint it white to reflect the light in the garage. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. Anywhere that seems to absorb a bit you should brush in more. Once the joists are exposed and I’ve had a good check to see if they’re not rotten or anything (fingers crossed!), noggin the *,not tongue & grooved all around,get the proper 8X2 weyrock flooring,it will go through most trap doors,you can get it from wickes & b&q. Floor is all chipboard sheeting T&G and runs lengthways with the bath. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. Currently in Stock. The join run's down the entire length of my hallway to the end of my apartment, and unlike any other chipboard flooring in the apartment it has no tongue and groove. I have been told to use 6mm ply with screwed down 6" centre's then a flexible adhesive - anyone got any advice on this - this house is around 17 years old Thanksnumber 4 New Member. View all: No Nonsense Flooring Sealants. Place dpm under current joist in contact with the bricks. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > laying oak floor on chipboard. I want to bring the wooden floor up to the same level before recarpeting the whole room. Leave an expansion gap of approx 10mm all around the perimeter of the room. Build up the liquid over each joint and jump around - allow the PVA to seep and creep in as far as it can. Click & Collect. 24-Groove Countersunk for a Smooth & Flush Finish. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. Includes TX20 bit. Water-Based Adhesive. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. Buy Flooring Adhesives at Screwfix. This should leave the flooring which goes under the wall fairly intact, and the wall supported. Thousands of products available. For chipboard flooring. This is way more than the 150mm minimum so you are OK to start laying. Can Be Used On Damp Surfaces. 7m at most before it runs across the solid supporting wall. Order Spax TX Countersunk Self-Drilling Flooring Screw 4. (36 products) Primer paint is required as an undercoat before applying the upper layers to any surface. Tongue-Tite TX Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 3. MrsB said: ↑. Traditionally I'd always thought you should use OSB or plywood for this, but there's a 4 week delay. Spacing wise I've seen 150mm spacing, does this mean across the whole board so a layout like this: View attachment 61755 I've left 50mm around the edge then split into 150mm as best I can, it. all carpets and flooring removed to expose chipboard floor which about 15 months ago got several coats of pva glue to see if this would solve the musty smell which it did. £74. The width including the tounge seems to be around 130mm. Lowvolts,. yep the old ways have nearly gone. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. I went a little bit rogue after being driven stir crazy and started tiling the bathroom floor today. priming approx £25 15kg sets in 5 hrs, alternatively. Fill holes and cracks with ease, suitable for many applications. 6mm. In the kitchen i will also put a layer of marine ply on top. £15. I'm currently doing some work to knock down a stud wall in a downstairs toilet to create an larger utility / toilet area. Immediately Walkable. I have recently removed some old floor tiles from my chipboard bathroom floor, in fact they came up far too easy for my likeing, I did not prime the floor before laying the tiles but did use a flexable adhesive. Pieces in Pack/Case. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. I will be tiling the floor and am just trying to understand my options. Click-Lock. £45. Our chipboard flooring features a tongue and groove fitting system for easy installation. I will be fixing skirting after the floor is laid and will be leaving a 10-15mm expansion gap all the way round. Use bal flex-rapid set and you will be ok. Go to My Project List Continue Shopping. Einhell kwb A4 Extra Fine P120 Sanding Mesh. I had a substantial leak in my 1st floor flat. #5. With both 12mm and 18mm chipboard available, this general-purpose chipboard is ideal for several uses, from cabinet making and joinery to wall lining and internal fittings. You can lay it full width all the way down if you want as long as you don't mind the waste off of each board!! I would use as much of the flooring as possible,just make sure the joints are sitting on a joist. joints must be staggered and land on joists when laying T & G chipboard flooring lay the first row then cut a piece for the next row so it lands on a different joist then lay a full board then use the offcut from the previous board to finish the row, if your joist are so far out you need a bigger piece you can use your ofcuts in subsequent rows and. Look out for intricate, decorative brackets for domestic projects, or more heavy duty versions for use in warehouses, factories or workshops. Redscyth and longboat like this. Chipboard flooring. You have no idea what the profile of P4 flooring chipboard looks like, and have never laid a chipboard floor 2. Glue and screw. I can't think of a more suitable surface for tiling. There is a page that shows ways of fitting the newel post onto a curtail tread, this will be the same principle but. Add a new look to your home with our range of engineered wood flooring at Wickes today. Solution is to go over the entire floor and give all the nails a good hammer down while pushing the boards down with your body weight. 99 Inc Vat. T & G Flooring Grade Chipboard or. theguildmaster New Member. and one more thing, use a screw. The only reason I can think of for insulating the voids is to reduce noise transmission. You don't need any noggins on the long joints, but where the ends of boards meet in a gap between joists it's best to put a noggin to support the joint. actually sell chipboard flooring bonded to there insulation. #11. Once the glue is dried just drop the small piece back in and fix with four screws. Fitting 12mm ply underlay to old victorian floorboards in prep for engineered wood floor. 2440x600 chipboard flooring. com. AnotherTopJob, Oct 7, 2020. murrmac, Jun 7, 2008. I’m considering 2 options: 1. This is one of the most important steps, and it’s one that’s tripped up a lot of homeowners in the past. 42 per m. Trying to fix the creaking in upstairs chipboard floor, before new carpet laid on Tuesday. terrymac , Sep 24, 2020I will been doing some T&G Chipboard in our bedroom. #2. Steviejoiner74 New Member. Use 3. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. Includes TX20 bit. 60 days free credit available. Brackets. 2) The surface must be clean and free of grit/dirt. com. £5. So had battons fitted to the underside of the joists to support 100m celotex, then used aluminium spreader plates to take the pipes, and 18mm t&g chipboard over the top secured to joists. £9. Never used these before but saw a video of a guy bedding them on adhesive just like the tiles, then screwing them down. The vertical timbers are stitched to that sole plate ,and the plasterboard on the bedroom side is screwed or nailed to it , possibly the skirting also. The previous kitchen area of the existing house was located in an area with a concrete floor, shared with the hallway to rear door. Drill a hole about 15 deep into the board on the line. Putting a new chipboard floor in our Utility. traditionally you would only use white glue for gluing these boards togehter,grip fill is too thick and silicone is definately not suitable!gun nailing is ideal as well as the nails are ribbed and will not allow movement. The Einhell kwb Sanding mesh SIZE A4, Grit: P180 Pack of 5 can be easily to cut in shape and can be used with a wide. bobthebuilder944, Feb 26, 2006. I’ll be laying insulation boards and ufh mat then laminate on top. So have done that, in part of the room so far. Tri-Lock threadform and shank incorporate the benefits of a single coarse thread with a twin thread start. hamster New Member. By insulating your loft or roof you'll effectively reduce heat loss. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Eye Squared R, Aug 17, 2009. I have uploaded photos and a wider photo for a better perspective. Order Timco Phillips Double-Countersunk 60° Self-Tapping Thread Collated Self-Tapping Chipboard Screws 4. PSR New Member. The distances between the joists vary. Heat Screwfix Select. For External Use. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > chipboard floating floor. 2. I have decided to remove the 'chicken-feed' flooring and re-do with solid wood T&G Planks. Flange Head with Reinforced Neck. Kingscurate, Weetabix and. Flooring Chipboard. Saved to Project List. The dip isn't as bad as the bounce and creak I get from it. The failure is due to movement. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. #2. I have done this with 22mm T&G chipboard flooring over 50mm celotex - cheaper than buying the celotex bonded stuff. 98 Inc Vat. Double Self-Countersunk with Underhead Ribs. Dry in 2 Hours. Then if you have a bit of movement on the pipes you may have. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. For Cement Based Mixes. Product Width. Astravan man , Sinewave is correct. 2 x 15 ml. Another option is to drill a 17mm hole down into the floor, hitting a joist if possible and up into the newel then screw a 19mm length of stud down into the floor then screw the newel down onto it. Inc. 6 size screws. Handyandy Screwfix Select. My plan was to use the 12mm chipboard i can get a load of for free and lay it on top of the parquet to give me a flatter surface for the laminate. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. (68 products) Door bolts are used to keep an opening secure, used regularly on gates and external entrances but suitable for internal use also. Double-Countersunk Head for Reduced Shear. Order JG Speedfit JGUFHEDGE Edge Insulation Roll 150mm x 25m at Screwfix. Its turning into a nightmare! I was expecting to just replace the worst. Natural Wood-Effect Laminate Flooring 8mm 1. 49 Inc Vat. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range, and hence chipboard. Plenty glue on the t&g and I personally glue to the joists as well. #11. Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. Screwfix Community Forum. There is a 30% restocking charge on returns. Laminate, engineered, solid or tiles worse. Coverage. If the problem is across a wide area you could use thin plywood tacked over the top. To stop there being a step, you have to remove it and replace with ply, as stated above. Product Width. Door Bolts. KIAB Super Member. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by David Prentice, May 29, 2019. The board next to bath also needs to come up as water damaged so agree, will improve access and allow new boards to be slid under bath, with legs fully raised, possibly cut boards in half to make things easier. I am now given up the way I’m laying the floor as the gap between subfloor chipboard and the laminate floor is becoming bigger and bigger. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. Screwfix Community Forum. 5mm x 60mm 300 Pack at Screwfix. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard flooring. General Purpose. Vin, May 16, 2020. 6 size. I put some battens down around the edges and door openings. what ever the thickness of the item being secured say 10mm, then multiply it by 3. 42 per m 2. Screwfix Community Forum. 5mm. Chipboard Flooring. Make sure that the screws have at least 18mm of unthreaded shaft so they can pull the ply down to the chipboard. #20. Laying a floor? Using Chipboard flooring panels? Take a look at how to use our CaberFix D4 glue in conjunction with CaberDek panels. Depends on how badly damaged they are of course, but i don't think it's worth it especially if you're carpeting. Net-Coat Blue-Plated. Jord86, Nov 22, 2021. I have traditional timber floorboards. Lifted the floorboards in the room above (no trouble) only to find a chipboard floor. Never used these before but saw a video of a guy bedding them on adhesive just like the tiles, then screwing them down. It will be rock solid, without any squeaks or creaks. Delivery Next day available. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. Again, my garage floor. can anyone help - I am about to refit my kitchen and want to lay floor tiles on a floating t&g chipboard floor laid over plastic menbrane then concrete. FREE Click & Collect within 30 minutes. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 22 x 600 x 2400mm. 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Having opted for a timber suspended floor (easier to hide cables etc) I have laid the joists and am about to start fixing T&G chipboard. the floor is quite solid and I can not feel any major movment from the flooring, (there is 1 or 2 spots where it does flex but i intend to screw this down better than it is at present to fix this. If you are left with holes in the floor just gripfill them in as the holes will have the joist underneath. Add to Cart. This is a job for a circular saw. 22mm Flooring Chipboard 8x2. MDF-Tite MDF Screws are designed to eliminate blistering when installing MDF boards, fibre boards and chipboard flooring. Suitable for Domestic Use. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. Sanding woodchip is not a great idea. Double Catch. (268 products) Brackets are a versatile and universal fixing used in both domestic and commercial settings. 4 they will be tongue and grooved ) and should be glued(pva) to the joists and at the tongues, and fixed with screws front and centre of the boards, if this has not happened you'll need. I think I'm tempted to ensure the joins are on the joists anyway. 69Inc Vat. Screwfix Community Forum. VAT) Quick view. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that #2 is the case. andy48 Screwfix Select. Screwfix Select. i am doing my en-suite at home in the new extension, but the tiles we are laying are about 16mm thick. com. In my living room I have a concrete floor at the back and a wooden floor at the front. More important to leave your. fixing ply straight to joists needs a screw 2. 66 rows. High Initial Grab. Ronseal Multipurpose Wood Filler Light 250g (21338) (187) compare. 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