Bleach should lose in nearly everything. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. 8 years ago. 1 Winner: The Beyonder. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. So I thought I'd try to level the playing field. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. edit2: One big gotcha I should mention. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. Funny, didn. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. He's an Evil Genius AND an Evil Sorceror who lives in a Dracula-castle. Or that the enitre multiverse was stated to be a mere droplet of water. ". Going with PR Beyonder. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. HOTU Thanos. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. She would stalemate the strongest nigh-omnipotents like PR Beyonder, EDG, etc. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 0. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. R5: Dr. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. A. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. First Firmament (Maybe biased)ALTERNATE VERSION: THE AFTERMATH OF SUPERMAN PRIME vs MONARCH: After defeating Monarch & the demise of Universe 51, Superman Prime senses that hisPR Beyonder should have no problem soloing, even if everyone else was in the other team. Air Legend. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. TOAA is above all. Unless its stated Some ware that PR Beyonder is TTOA or has met and defeated (even if its of panel) True LT or Primal Force. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. the beyonder is literally the embodiment of a universe which dwarfs the mainstream multiverse, so he can do the same thing for the multiverse, but not all of marvel (since marvel is an omniverse. Protege and Mad Jim Jaspers are kind of wild cards. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. 0. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. . Oblivion is higher on the totem pole of power. The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis) The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in. Nothing more needs to be said. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. this may get ugly,good match up imo though. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. Well, uh. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). TOAA; Presence; Great Evil Beast; Living Tribunal; Scathan; Protégé; PR-Beyonder; PR-Molecule Man; Lucifer Morningstar; Michael Demiurgos. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. 0. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. #9 Edited By Supreme Marvel. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. Reviews: 0. she is not omnipotent, but PR beyonder and TOAA are, and PR beyonder is at LT level, which means TOAA wins. His. @traskindustries: He reminds me of Beyonder because of his pictures, not because. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. I don't think Living Tribunal was there, neither was oblivion. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. . they have quite the lineup. Round 2: Molecule Man after the retcon Beyonder era. Location. RULES:Morals off. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. A universe that is more powerful. 5. PR Beyonder is intended to be a god within another dimension but this doesn't then make him incapable of being compared to TOAA, especially because PR Beyonder would be effected by the universe. Beyonder is the bigger god. 815. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Jul 30, 2018. Follow 25782. Casually Oneshotting all of dc is beyond anything pr beyonder or any beyonders have ever done. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. He was the TOAA of another mutliverse that came to Marvel's multiverse. I don't think Oblivion can be destroyed. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. In fact, God Doom, who possessed. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. Round 1: No prep time. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. 0. That was Pre-Retcon Beyonder. " Current as in the old man with parkinson's. Basically this. 3rd. PR Beyonder. Following Secret. BEYONDERGOD. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. New Comics. 4 years ago. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. @kingant27 said:. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. 12 years ago. 05-03. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. Martian (Martian Manhunter) 3. Manhattan's league. So just assume that this the PR version of the Beyond realm. 9 years ago. With Marvel having beings like the LT, Protege,PR Beyonder,PR Molecule Man,Scanthan The Approver,Multi-Eternity,Oblivion,Life Bringer Galactus and many others. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. 6 years ago. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. Beyonder saying he's omnipotent or gaining back his powers doesn't confirm his omnipotence. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. Has this been done before? the Search function is screwing me over if so. 5 tons to punch a car. The Presence. Post-Retcon Beyonder on the other hand is only a Cube Being, so is much weaker. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. 0. 14 years ago Lance. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. Like, that kind of thing has to matter, if not, Flash can speed-steal Odin, or Galactus, or PR Beyonder. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. u/nullfather can attest to that. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. Follow 3068. Take the hill. Business, Economics, and Finance. We're talking about a guy who recreated the omniverse just by thinking about it and decimated the entire multiverse just. Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. Lord Urizen. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. All are at maximum power fight is to the death or ko. She/Her. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Reviews. Forum Posts. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line. Both equally were sharing same body as explained in mutant x #32. . "TOAA & The Presence play the same respective roles in DC and Marvel. 0. The BeyondersVS. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Followers. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. Lucifer and Michael are powerhouses but so is PR Beyonder. Forums. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. New Comics. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. Bump. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. g2_ Follow 14321. The Beyonder was literally the most powerful entity in the Marvel universe before he was retconned. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. Gokuisthebest. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. This topic is locked from further discussion. Another thing about the. And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. 11 years ago. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. i mean ya the pr beyonder and dr solar are apparently omnipotent , but you should not forget the phoenix . The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. FollowComposite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. 63 results. Based on physics, molecules, space and time. 29. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. @majestic99. @laflux said: MOM. (Cuz there are none. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. The unfortunate thing is that Lucifer and Michael best most of the characters listed there,and only really get stalemated by like 2. PR Beyonder had every single abstract and Living Tribunal at his knees. Trust me bud, and until you have scans, it ain’t true. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. Posts. So. Reviews. If allowed, Thanos with HOTU or astral regulator is top tier. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Nobody can beat PR Beyonder. The Beyonders that killed all the Celestials then proceeded to shit on all the cosmic beings like The Living Tribunals. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. " @Silver2467 said: "The two fought before. Comic Writters>Comic characters, the PR beyonder was stated to be the representation of the writters in the comic in that they could do they anything and that they were beyond anything in the comic thus the name "The Beyonder". Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. Matezoide2. #6 Edited By icecream1991. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. 4 years ago. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. I forget her name. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. The Crimson King. Destroying the metaverse, which is stated to be. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Kuuko273. In your opinion, what is the most impressive feat that any character from history has ever done. "@Decoy Elite: sorry for bumping this thread but I needed to reply to. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. ago. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Lucifer Morningstar vs The Beyonders. TOAA is above all. Reviews: 4. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . 2 years ago. 13 years ago. Beyonder is the bigger god. LocatiNew Comics. Wiki Points. Forum Posts. 2. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. There are 5 magics, and one of the 5 magicians killed the original vampire moon god. 801. FollowAny who PR Beyonder wins against any Jesus since his only "feats" are raising the dead, reviving after 3 days, turning water into wine and some other bits of lesser magic. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. 9 years ago. PR Beyonder was crazy powerful, and i have seen threads where he would beat thought robot superman. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. • 1 year ago. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Side note: I'm using this version of. Especially. Put MM on the other team and the result is the same. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. After the retcon (1st one) that all changed, but not before it. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. 4 years ago. dope matchup. . PR Beyonder. I didn't say he was TOAA himself *face palm* BEYONDER was TOAA before TOAA existed BEYONDER was him (TOAA) in his own. Fulcrum. This is Marvel Vs Dc to see who has had the biggest Villain threats of all time. vs. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. He was a way wanked character. FollowHere's the deal. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was established, there was no character of TOAA before or at the time of Secret Wars 1 & 2. Wiki Points. They above everyone on the list Gold Experiance Requiem cant touch nigh beings or omni beings so its useless. Lord Urizen. I need to know please New Comics. 8 years ago. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Build Your Own Omnitrix. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. Who wins? & who are each U's Omniversal beings? If someone does DC, I'll then do marvels to show there superiAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. Forum Posts. 6,407. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Home Lists Doctor Manhattan Vs. Roshi in a heartbeat. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. Beyonder escaped. Forums. . master. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. I really don't want to believe. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. In the OG secret wars LT gathered a crew of the strongest cosmic entitities to face of PR Beyonder and couldnt do anything. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. Mate living tribunal has killed the beyonder. Round 1: CAS vs. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". 2. Beyonder solos. Since he knows past. PR Beyonder is the lesser of the two, so there we have it. PR beyonder. Yeah but I mean the presence is "generally. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. the only times I see pr beyonder being Blinked by accident is by those above the endless. . Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. His will is law. User. 0. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. PR Beyonder wins. MM is powerful enough to rebuild the marvel multiverse completely from scratch, and he was nowhere near as strong as PR Beyonder when they fought during SW2. 6 years ago deactivated. Victory by permanent death or erasure. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. @mazeraiii said: Beyonder solo's. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Adm1ralSnackbar. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Omnipotence and omniscience. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. #12 Edited By Montaq. @lariend said: Missmatch any from team 2 can solo. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). BEYONDERGOD. m99. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. 0. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. He's in seriouLiving Tribunal has been repeatedly demolished by reality warpers who have total control over the multiverse. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. But if you are ONLY going FEATS wise, then Classic Beyonder takes it. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. He is another universe, pre-big bang. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. Crom-Cruach.