A second later the phone started to ring again, prompting Khan to answer again. 15 votes, 14 comments. You and your ilk forget that to the peril of us all. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. ‘So was Horus. The former worlds of the Realm of Ultramar didn't want to have to give up their independence to Guilliman after 10,000 years of not having him. They were the only legion permitted to use the Aquilla. Everyone else may have had more actual power, but not as much authority. His dad was a reformer that launched a military campaign in the barbaric region, got betrayed by his best friend and got stabbed to death. Guilliman turned away and strode towards the occupied cell. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. ‘Does He not speak to you?’ The unbearable radiance enfolded Guilliman, so glaring Mortarion threw up his hands. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. A Custodian of clear authority strode towards the Throne, with a massive golden hammer in one of his hands and his helm in the other. That's why people see Him differently and interpret His words in different ways (like how the Custodes heard Him referring to the Primarchs as numbers, Land sees him as the Omnissiah, etc. His Primarchs were weapons, that was all. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. what Guilliman was planning for was the Imperium's survival after the HH, where the powers that were would be broken down into the powers that be. Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!Today we discuss the revelation of the Emperor's words to his son, the returned Roboute Guilliman. Yes, last crusaders from destroyed Cadia assisted Guilliman when he woke up. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. He ascended to sainthood. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. 'I apologise. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a god. The conversation with Guilliman after he returned is Roboute talking to a semi-ascended deity whose mind and soul are fractured beyond belief. Sorrow suffused everything. Basically if Guilliman had the time he would and could make the Imperium into a bigger Ultramar. . I'd probably go as far as say armywide, since many of the Strategums would be more useful away from Guilliman. . Sure the Ultramarines are still around but none of the ones that were alive millennia ago, when Guilliman was last conscious. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. It like how scotland has a kilt but we say it is a skirt, different culture different rules. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Well, Rogal did say the Emperor's delusions were growing worse. and when they’re going to show up. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. I want to see someone roll up to Guilliman and just deliver a blistering, no-holds-barred, "You fuckers all ran off or died or vanished and left us and your father here to fend for our fucking selves, so we did what we had to in order to. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Fan base takes that and runs all the way to “THEY FUKKED, GUILLIMAN IS A XENO LOVER. He heard all these at once. So instead he fired the ones that he wanted gone, replaced them with ones who would support his agenda of “we need to fix this mess” and then. It's the throwdown you've been waiting for, as Guilliman and Mortarion work out ten thousand years of pent-up resentment in a clash for the ages. And I think it would really make a great literary arc that Guilliman the ultra rational, by the book Imperial regent is murdered by a mob of religious zealots. And the Emperors sword kind of fucks with Chaos being able to come back. ‘I face you at last,. Emperor meeting with Imperator Guilliman of Ultramar Empire together with President Angron of Nurceria would be hilarious. Every Primarchs who hadn't fallen to Chaos had proven their loyalty several times over. As you say, Guilliman does spend a lot of time in the Heresy on Imperium. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. They were things. ago. He was no god when I knew Him, but now…’. When Guilliman meets the Lion again in 40k. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. ‘Guilliman is a misguided fool at best, and a traitorous dog at worst. The Lion needs the reminder. Titus Prayto held his master’s stare and nodded confirmation. I was trying to think about what would be the ultimate GrimDark ending to Guilliman's story. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. Of course, Calgar was an autocrat too, a minor Emperor in all but name. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. They were things. . When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Sure, Guilliman is likely to turn the leadership of Nurceria to newly educated, non-violent ex-slaves while offering Angron a place if he want to deal with bureaucracy. Guilliman seems to be adopting many of the mannerisms of Julius Caesar though. Agronomy would probably still be really pissed at the emperor and by extension the imperium for letting all his fellow gladiators die on Nuceria. Discord - Old Man's Patreon - -. The Horus Hearsay, where 9 drunken Primarchs say that the Emperor would totally be able to do a standing jump high enough to touch the ceiling of the throne room, and the other 9 argue that he needs a run-up, and the end result. ‘Roboute Guilliman. ‘Hope. Dorn lost nearly everything. ‘Tjejren was a servant of the Emperor once. ’ ‘I am not holy,’ said Guilliman. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017)Guilliman's initial reaction: ‘Of all of them… Why did it have to be him who found a way through the storm?’. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. ’. The Imperial Regent cannot command the Custodes they dont answer to the emperor, they answer to the Emperor of Mankind. 21. Once Luther and the Fallen are dead, Lion would come back and be a problem for Guilliman. I'd say stealing away thousands upon thousands of potential Astartes candidates/actual serving Astartes to turn them into improved super soldiers that you then keep hidden until the incredibly edge case scenario of Guilliman coming back to life occurs definitely seems like a total betrayal of the Emperor and his Imperium. Moreover, Guilliman says he fights for what the Emperor believed in, past tense, not present. Based on the available information, the Emperor became stronger after his trip to Molech from first hand sources such as Alivia Sureka. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. The Imperial Cult deified him as a demigod; Guilliman, the Emperor's Avenging Son. He lets Guilliman keep the 500 Worlds both to keep him occupied doing what he was designed to do, and to act as a 'second foundation' to the Imperium. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. He didn't plan on usurping the Emperor, but considering everything that was going on, that's not a bad assumption -Kurze did plan on sapping his morale. fandom. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. My personal theory is it wasn't the Emperor who possessed Guilliman, but his [Guilliman's] presence in the Warp. ‘So was Horus. LessRight Adeptus Mechanicus • 2 yr. He didn't want them to be useless in the aftermath, like some Legions were sure to be, looking at you World Eaters and Night Lords. Achallor had a sudden, chilling insight into why Valoris had chosen Colquan. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017) The rivalry between Russ and the Lion, Russ’ hatred for the Legionbreaker Guilliman, the Lions secrecy v Guillimans more open and rational way of doing things. injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it again After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. Was the Emperor selfish and did He lied. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. So at the minimum that's one primarch with a similar level of accomplishment as Guilliman before being found again by the Emperor. Guilliman is far more adult than Lion, Lion is an ill tempered, socially awkward commander who relies on the charisma of others to pull through, man literally starts a punch out with Russ over petty shit, almost comes to blows with Sanguinius and Guilliman (LOL) he’s a pretty immature dude. Guilliman's characterization, as well as the subtlty of his realizations about his father, seemed highly inconsistent with their portrayal in Dark Imperium. ‘I must fight him. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. Whereas Abnett's coverage of the Horus Heresy has got the Emperor's greatest son stuck in the middle of some wheat fields on the. A laugh. ’ Guilliman forced himself to look up into the pillar of light, the screaming of souls, the empty-eyed skull, the impassive god, the old man, yesterday’s saviour. The Primarchs are already called demigods throughout Godblight. He kinda goes back and forth on it, he's mad because he feels the Emperor looks at him as a tool only to be used to achieve his own ends. Vulkan disapears at some point befoee Guilliman os wounded and but later reappears over a 1000 years later. The Emperor's vision for humanity died the second Magnus 'I didn't do nuffin wrong' the Red fucked the webway project. The line of Custodian guards parted at the center to allow him to stand before the Lion. ‘That axe looks sharp enough to me, brother,’ said Guilliman. ‘Tell me that you did it. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. Context: The Imperials leaders are having a "discussion", regarding the war in the Webway, especially about the Emperor's edict of secrecy. LOLOLOLOL” I mean, a meme I get, but I seriously think some people genuinely think it’s cannon. A fact Guilliman did not know. He's now the Imperium's defender. Well, with less. The plan was 3-fold. "Guilliman. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. When Guilliman gives and order you have to imagine the fucking god Emperor himself got up of his throne and came and told you the same. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. This is the BoLS Team’s Murder on the Orient Express/Ocean’s 11 theory for how it goes down: Eldar use the webway to get everyone into the Throne Room. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. Of us all, I think perhaps only poor Konrad knew, for he too had the power to see the future. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. 138. This is after his "death" and resurrection, his meeting with the Emperor and his experiences with the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy. It was the look of the blindly faithful. Despite his seemingly peaceful nature Sanguinius was known for his martial prowess, to the extent he was considered a match for Horus and Lion El’Jonson in combat ability. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. When the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. With that he forced Frater Mathieu to accept Guilliman's offer of militant-apostolic office. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. Sectors are fairly large though. That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. In addition of being tasked of punishing the Thousand Sons, it is (not that) subtly hinted that the Space Wolves were tasked to eliminate the Second and Eleventh Legions. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. TheEvilBlight Administratum • 3 yr. The more I think about it the more I really like the idea of allowing Guilliman to grant a single Ultramarines Strategum use for free to a unit within 6". I would say Guilliman is more of Marius/Augustus combo. ‘So my people think he will save them when I cannot?’ Guilliman had asked as he strapped on his ceremonial plate in the Residency’s fitting chamber. In Unremembered Empire, Guilliman is the lone Primarch in charge of Ultramar, blocked from Terra by the Ruinstorm. Saying the exact same thing in 40k is heresy of the highest order because in 40k the Emperor is a god and is intrinsic to the Imperium he rules. 1)Because there is a major difference between building an empire and waging war. Believe Rumors about the Indomitus-Crusade and Guilliman just being Propaganda. The few crew on the command deck tried very hard not to listen in. Magos Lehm, next one. Perhaps that tipped it. ’ ‘Disappointment. Why did the Emperor speak to Guilliman but the High Lords of Terra have to rely on pure happenstance with The Emperor's Tarot to try to determine the Emperor's Will when governing the Imperium? Reply replyIn the wake of the Emperor's death, Roboute Guilliman finds a child of unusual psychic strength, and senses a strong bond with the boy. Like let's say the emperor on the throne is one man and the one possessing women and zapping untold amounts of enemies is a new chaos god who just hasn't found his evil. So it actually not out of character. +++I am an early prototype mechanicus construct. By breaking the legion Guilliman wanted to send a message to the other traitor legions that their best could be broken. ago. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. Sanguinius, What transpires on the surface of the Throneworld, I cannot say. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. Unlike the Emperor who left them to die by teleporting Angron away. He never tried to be something other than what the Nails made him and can’t let go of his memories of Nuceria. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. He was there to watch the primarch. The Emperor’s words burned him. To deny the Emperor’s divinity is to be sentenced to death. Guilliman recoiled from the adoration shining from. 1. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. It was the look of the blindly faithful. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp". I'd say Guilliman would have been a better. ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord. Guilliman looked to Galatan. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. Abaddon kills the Custodes. " Rogal grumbled, his eyebrows furrowing in disappointment. The thought of being destroyed by Guilliman, of falling to the Emperor’s only living son, almost undid him. Why can't we understand the Emperor's morals. King Konor was my father. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with my promo code "MAJORKILL" at Emperor would not condone the loss of millions simply to reign Curze/the Night Lords in. His words in that matter would be ignored every bit as much as the Ecclesiarchy would ignore him telling them to stop worshipping the Emperor or some suchIn the Regent's Shadow we see Guilliman keeps an obsidian statue bust of Sanguinius in his bedroom, so he definitely misses him quite a bit. The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to. ’ He heard all these at once. Alerting guilliman, although seeming good at face value, could set off a chain reaction leading to a worse outcome overall. I doubt the Emperor was willing to lose Guilliman over this so he probably would have given Guilliman a. In the old lore, Horus dropped his shields to lure the Emperor aboard the Vengeful Spirit because his time was up and Guilliman and the XIII were coming. And his status as the Emperor's only living, loyal son does come with a lot of clout; but he can't go beating people over the head with it. After Roboute Guilliman was resurrected in the closing days of the 41st Millennium, Mortarion sensed his brother's rebirth. Saying the exact same thing in 40k is heresy of the highest order because in 40k the Emperor is a god and is intrinsic to the Imperium he rules. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. ’ Mathieu took a step backwards. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. The Eldar, back before the Fall, were slavers. Abaddon is the vessel of incredible power armed with a weapon too strong for the Emperor of Mankind to defeat and the claw that killed two Primarchs, while Guilliman is a Primarch armed with the Emperor's Blade. Rogal Dorn and Diocletian (the resident Custodes) began to butt head over the issue, so Kaeria the Silent Sister have some thing to say (sign). ’. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His Golden Throne and proclaimed ‘I am not a god!’ then they would burn Him as a heretic. Horus will be forced to acknowledge the Emperor again, and Guilliman and the others will not usurp their true master. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by Rhapsody of FireAnci. ’ Silence. ‘I know that, but I would no sooner bend my knee to him than to Horus. ’ ‘Guilliman. ’. Blacksheep045 • 5 yr. He brought Guilliman back to life from the vastly aged husk that Nurgle’s Godblight did to him. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. After some time, the boy receives visions of the future, one. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. ’. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. ‘That is not the question you came to ask, but I will answer it anyway. That's not to say that comparisons can't be made but given Deng is a very recent and incredibly controversial ruler, it'll be difficult to have a conversation in good faith. From the epic brother vs. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. ago IndySoccerFan25 SPOILER [Book Excerpt] [Dark Imperium: Plague War] Guilliman and Mortarion have a chat Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. ‘So was Horus. A third comes, eager for the glory of killing a primarch. ♫Hello Mr Emperor♫. Roboute was his Augustus that avenged him. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. To top that off, he's alone. Do not do this,’ said Thiel. Curze has the truth of it, but I was blinded by my anger. 53 votes, 36 comments. He would just do that, not complain. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. C) even if I wanted to kill Guilliman, he managed to outsmart every move the High Lords of Terra made to killing him. In the books Guilliman describes the Emperor as not only full of bullshit for his 'oh, I totally need you, you're the bestest', but also describes the Emperor as unsubtle and infinitely cold. ‘He will want to prove he is better by feat of arms. Guilliman's resurrection was symbolic of hope rekindled for the Imperium but he's got this dirty little secret which is that the entire 40k Imperium is FUBAR and has just about zero chance of ascending to its former glory. ‘I shall depart today, for the Emperor. Before the future Lord of Ultramar is thrown into the galaxy, the. They made sure they left their conquered worlds. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. He wants to reunite humanity again and destroy the old doctrine of idolatry towards the emperor in order to lead humanity to the right path. And while yes, that generally means the stakes must be high, he also has enough firepower to deal with said situation, meaning the guardsmen will be forced back away from that local area to make way for astartes, custodes, sisters of battle/silence. As a father he took time to ride and hunt with his son and teach him what he thought was importent life lessons. The Emperor did not love His sons. In anticipation he created 7 new. 3. While no-one can actually verify what was spoken of the fact that there was communication suggests the Emperor's may yet be healed. Then the hateful rumours from Isstvan, of treacherous masquerade and false colours, were true. It being Gulliman he had sequestered any and all info on his missing brothers. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. While the emperor wasn't a god at the start, 10000 years of the imperial creed being worshipped over thousands of planets has changed that. If this happens, the Custodes could possibly follow Guilliman instead of protecting the throne (if they believe this is the Emperor's will), and thus move towards being their own faction. Although in his genius Roboute Guilliman excelled at everything Calgar could imagine, in other ways he was a world away from the idealised figure Calgar had imagined all his life. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. The Lion is the literal son of the Emperor who lead a legion in the great crusade who's victory tally was second only to Horus and the Luna Wolves. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. Guilliman is NOT the Emperor and his "forgiveness" would be irrelevant. ‘Worship the Emperor, if you must, but I am not deserving of your praise, nor will I. Spoilers ahead: "Necessity overcomes morality. ’ He heard all these at once. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. One of the countless worlds lost to greater mankind during the darkness of Old Night. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. He nods to Guilliman, slurs something unintelligibly, then turns and goes back into the Warp. Then calls them over for negotiations, they seem him and can't believe it. Then you have wise and morally good Khan and Guilliman. Come on now. Context: Guilliman is fighting an army of daemons and has an epiphany about the nature of daemons, the warp and their connection to mankind's minds. Guilliman is the Imperial Regent - he talked to and got the approval from the Emperor. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Context: Sulymanya is a Rogue Trader who doesn't believe in the Emperor as a God. At least the "blessing by the militant-apostolic" must be jarring for him. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch whose location was known to the Imperium. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. Dan Abnett put in some excellent irony and foreshadowing in Guilliman's musing in the Unremembered Empire. The humans suffered massively during the Age of Strife, and by the time of the Great crusade, the Fall happened fairly recently, and we have two kinds of. Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're asking the question. Leman: “Well frack me and call me a Fenrisian wenches bitch, yer actually did it ye utter mad lad. 10k years ago humans didn't even have pictograms, and yet the Imperium has kept the same general religion the whole time. 1. Either that or Lukas kills Lucius, takes over his body, and the next person to kill Lucius-in-Lukas's-body triggers the stasis grenade and Lucius is stuck there. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. 1 more reply. Guilliman is the Regent - his word is as if it came from the Emperor. Guilliman has returned in glory to the Emperor's side. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grevious harm against the equilibrium of time and being. CryptoThe Consul said that people needed the light of hope in this dark hour, a shining example of victory to renew their faith not just in the Emperor, but in Guilliman reborn. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. " Guilliman steps towards the lithocast phantom, as though he might strike it down or snap its neck. Guilliman became the most stable and reasonable Primarch, because he grew up with a loving and wealthy father and mother (figure). NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. And don't forget how "Lord Guilliman" is actually a title that the commander of all Imperium forces held until the War of the Beast. The Lion survived a planet exploding. ’ He heard all these at once. I want to hear you say it. He is less certain whether the same remains true in 40k, but ultimately decides that it does. At the end of Godblight, Roboute Guilliman is Emperor possessing Guiliman, like how some believe he did to the child in Plague Wars. Sanguinius fell, he had the carry the Emperor back from the vengeful spirit, and his sons did the brunt of the line work on the walls. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. Every person around you considers Him a god, and I simply keep my own counsel on the matter. Along with the conclusion of a story that’s been in the works since the days of Roboute Guilliman’s awakening, new editions of the original books (Dark Imperium and Plague War) are soon to be available for pre-order. "Listen to me. 40K loves its big showdowns. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. Guilliman was already a governor of 500 world by the time Ullanor rolled around. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. Why did the Emperor set up basically tyrannical government. Where before Roboute Guilliman had sat, a pale, stasis-locked revenant, now the Primarch stood awake, alert and very much alive. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. Emperor: Guilliman. ‘We were there together. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. His presence was immense, dominant as a thunderhead suddenly filling the shrine with its crushing pressure. The Adepta Sororitas and Guilliman. Guilliman stated that his time on the throne made him "lose his subtlety", so instead of seeing the Emperor however he used to see him telling him he was a good boy, he got a painful light accidentally letting slip that he doesn't really care about him as a person. iirc Guilliuman hunted Fulgrim for two reasons. "The Emperor loves us all' lied Roboute Guilliman My last Dark Imperium excerpt was received very well so I wanted to share my other favorite excerpt. Guilliman had no illusions. They were things. Thus spoke Roboute Guilliman in 41K. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. Crickets_Head • 6 mo. You will not wield it against me. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. ‘Lorgar was wrong about our creator. You and your ilk forget that to the peril of us all. Guilliman figures out why the Emperor kept Chaos a secret from everybody. Big E does a little trolling. His actions didn’t change but the meaning of the Emperor and the Imperium did. One of the most important points in the current Warhammer 40k lore is the encounter between Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40000. Guilliman is the Emperor’s favorite son. Guilliman had already evolved beyond the status of warlord, where Horus was still a killer of worlds and a subjugator of adversaries. This is the first time in 9000 years that someone with working legs has actually outranked an Inquisitor Lord. Having your father tell you your simply a weapon after 10,000 years sleeping and hundreds before that fighting in the Emperors name might fuck with your confidence a little bit. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. But now? Guilliman finally gained his composure. What horrors you have endured, I cannot imagine. While Guilliman is in charge of the Ultramarines, he is Lord Commander of the Imperium. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. ’ ‘Fight me, you coward,’ growled Guilliman. Guilliman was a rationalist, Lorgar was a quester after metaphysical truths. The Emperor's Sword is just a sweep attack weapon now and that feels similar to everyone else. The other problem is the immediate internecine Imperial conflict. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. Didnt Guilliman say something along the lines of that the Emperors humanity is gone? And now hes just simply cold logical and uncaring. That's why Roboute insisted that his guys were well rounded. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. The Emperor will tolerate the dreams of his sons–but only insofar as they don't interfere with their actual jobs. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. The emperor was maneuvering events into what he saw leading to the best outcome while avoiding butterfly-effect esque mistakes. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. The Emperor of the East Roman Empire who even though he tried could not restore the West. It is a time of Legend. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see.