Tropius hm slave. But really, the only thing he's good for is looking awesome and being a non-Normal type HM Whore. Tropius hm slave

 
 But really, the only thing he's good for is looking awesome and being a non-Normal type HM WhoreTropius hm slave  "Welcome to Bururaji! This is Ragna the Bloodedge, Sugita Tomokazu! HARDCORE! HARDCORE!" - Sugita Tomokazu, BlazBlue Radio

I used 3 of them in Gen5. Dlnar • 10 yr. Skarslave. " - Xanoe Rules. 25: (slave) Cut Fly Strength Rock Smash. One of my most helpful pokemon for catching pokemon also used to be one of my HM slaves. Two-Face 13 years ago #3. Well, since you don't need the HM slave for the elite 4, I'd say replace it with your best boxed pokemon, and grind everyone up to around level 56 - 58. 0. Lugia (I have a few, I use one that has Surf and Fly), Onix (has the odd TM too I think), Linoone (with pickup). 12. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. . The two cover every HM. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. ORAS: Sharpedo for water (double the speed has its perks; plus it was powerful to boot), Altaria for Flying, Zigzagoon and Tropius for the other stuff. Free Bananas all the time to keep you. Curiously, I tend to think of Tropius as an HM-user before any of these. Just make sure you have a HM slave. Any information will help Thank you. Ludicolo - Leech Seed, Surf, Sub/Protect/Rain Dance, Ice Beam Vileplume - Sludge Bomb, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf/Giga Drain, Sleep Powder Breloom: Leech Seed, Sky Uppercut, Spore, filler Of course, any set is decent ingame, but that's what I recommend. 4 Greninja. DRAGONITE used BARRIER! shinryu_omega 8 months ago #5. Its ability is Chlorophyll, which makes grass-type moves more powerful in sunlight. ago. Best 2 HM slaves for this game Pokemon Omega Ruby 3DS. Put Tropius into slavery. Pokemon Violet IGN: Tuba. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Tropius is only good as an HM Slave. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. This is the place for most…Tropius is very versatile HM Slave. :x. Of the four lines, I like the Furret line the best as a bottom line, though the Bidoof line is better at being HM slaves. As far as I know, Slaking doesn't benefit from any attacks other than return, shadow ball, earthquake, and maybe hyper beam. I think that Magikarp is the best HM slave! :D. EDIT: Aw, maybe I should have thrown Tropius a bone. You can then pick anything in the top 15 or so on the chart (and others below, depending on which 3rd/4th moves you give. It can learn almost every HM. FC: 2423-3256-7374. I generally am not a fan of the move fly so I like having someone else to do that. But you can't get Tropius till post-game unless you have some other version. Welcome to the Masquerade. That said, Tropius still deserves some recognition for it's HM. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. Questions. Cheats. 5D graphics like in Octopath Traveler. For those who may want other uses for this incredible pokemon, consider stacking it with hms. Mew, Smeargle, Tropius. Alternatively, if you already have a Tropius with the egg move it can. Safari=Dwebble, Pupitar and Shuckle. Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and also the TM Flash which is very useful. In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. Lol, I used swampert for strength, waterfall, and surf. Between them they learn all of the HMs. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". Get a Starly for Fly and Defog. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. Sign in with the following networks. MY TEAM: Breloom, Sceptile, Ludicolo, Cacturne, Roserade, Cradily, Ferrothorn, Shiftry, and Tropius (HM Slave). Make a note that Tropius cannot be found at Night (20:00-03:59). In my list,cIconly show HM slaves and their HM moves. Tropius (Japanese: トロピウス / Tropius) is a dual-type Grass/Flying Pokémon, and one of the official Pokémon featured in Pokémon Vega. Syleafid also outclasses this Bananasaurus tremendously, as well. . I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. 2. Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. Krendall (Topic Creator) 15 years ago #3. O. Use him ingame as a sunnybeamer and he'll do fine. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. . I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". 1. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. I went to Route 4 to try and find some Kanto Pokemon. ago. Aside from a plethora new moves, Tropius is still a bit meh, thanks to its mediocre stats. It's always nice to have an ability that works outside of battle on a pokemon that you wouldn't dream of battling with. Tropius has zero competitively useful sets in singles or doubles in pretty much any conceivable format. i used him in emerald by acident. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Golduck: Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Orangen14 years ago#3. Cacturne has always been my favorite Hoenn grass type. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. numel zigzagoon wailmer dodrio bellossom are good. But none of these are flying types obviously. 4. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). knows false. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. She's currently level 49 cause when my current team gets whooped by some lucky high-level wild one, she steps in and saves the day with one powerful Surf. I wouldn't take chances,for finding big mushrooms/tinymushrooms for remembering. Tropius is a god tier HM slave. Fly is also usable in game, now that it is 90 base power, but don't use it competitively. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good measure! This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. 3DS FC: 1375-7711-9231. This Pokémon loves fruit, and eats it continuously. Between Tropius and any one of quite a few water Pokemon, you can get all 8 HMs. Definitely needs a glow-up. tropius is also a good hm slave. Tropius - cut - fly - flash - strength/rock smash Water Pokemon - surf - dive - waterfall - strength/rock smash *Means that they don't get strength or rock smash, but they get another HM (Tentacool - cut, Chinchou - flash) that Tropius can also learn so Tropius can double up on strength and rock smash and the water can use the other HM. "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. Giratina (lvl 70): Strength Waterfall. We need some HM slave appreciation. Emerald_Melios 7 years ago #9. SURF on Greninja. . Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. That means it can rock smash, climb, surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, and strength. and fog only lowers accuracy. Tauros is an excellent candidate for TM Slave 1; he learns, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. Stantler Thief earthquake strenght. • 3 yr. 2 Ludicolo. Switch FC: SW-6466-0014-8328. ago. ryhorn makes a good Hm slave to. 2. Like Ludicolo, Crawdaunt can also learn six out of the eight HMs in the game. I. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. Tropius’s weight is 100kg, and its HP is 2. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. "Mega, I don't need you to defend me. For Pokemon Black Version 2 on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rate My White Version 2 In Game Team". Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. 1. Wailord (HM slave and Heal/Switch sacrifice) Tropius (Cut and Heal/Switch sacrifice) Open slot until I can get Umbreon. BEEP BEEP RICHIE! 3DS code for Pokemon Y: Hotaru, 4012-5008-6899. 2 Gallade. of course i don't. Please don't mention mew, I don't have one, but any two that are great HM slaves would be much appreciated thanks. PokeAMon 14 years ago #5. Bibarel can learn Rock Smash, Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb and Waterfall. Aug 18, 2010. It's like compensation. Neither Tropius nor Lapras are good for Competitive Battling. You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it by using GameShark codes. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). Absolutely. This POKéMON flies by flapping the leaves on its. Tropius' distinctive nature earns it an HM-toting spot on plenty of party lists. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. . If memory serves, Bibarel and Tropius learn all 8 HMs together. If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. Whatever the choice, don't be that guy who constantly switches Pokemon in and out the PC every time you need to use an HM move. Giratina (lvl. it's pretty good. that's about it. ROCK CLIMB on Conkeldurr. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. Mew would also be a good option, but I doubt you would want to ruin its moveset (it is better off as a Baton Passer anyway). Gyrados - Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Strength. . Mew is the obvious choice. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. 4 Greninja. Linoone is the best HM slave of all time (better than Bibarel) because it learns all of the stuff you'd want plus it has Pick Up. The best HM slaves are Skarmory and Bibarel. Oct 14, 09 at 7:47pm (PST) ^. Re: HM Whore Showdown! It's probably best not to use language like that in the thread/poll title. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. with pokèsav magikarp is an excellent hm slave. 3DS FC: 5155 2932 6518. Log in to add games to your lists. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. What Are HM Slaves in Pokémon? The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. however for utility reasons a grass type w/ sweet sent might be called for So Oddish would be a good choice or Tropius as an HM slave per Eon flute. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. Usually the. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. HM Slave switches in and out of the team. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. metroidfan987 9 years ago #16. So I'll pose the question, are their any Pokemon besides the classic Bibarel, Linoone. Bibarel + Tropius = good HM slaves, but which moves do I give each?? For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Bibarel + Tropius = good HM slaves, but. Cult of Cthulu Ziploc and Glad are equally detrimental to the community. It is also my best Pokemon at level 100, can beat nearly all others, and can 1-hit KO most Pokemon with just one Surf. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. . You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. All the HMs you ever need can go on two Pokémon, leaving four slots open for whatever you like and no worries as far as roadblocks, ever. If not, it can learn most of them. The main mons that cover the important ones you need (Fly, Surf, etc) are Dragonite, Lugia, Mew, Latias, and Latios. It has OK stats, but it is better off as an HM slave. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. ago. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. BW1 & BW2: Wailmer for water, Tropius for everything else X: The gift Lapras you get for water, my Fletchlinder for Flying (and breeding since it also had Flamebody), and Bibreal for the rest. While I was doing that I realized he also would. it's the internet >_> - ILikeDesu. (n. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. Reply reply TheChurchofHelix • Wailmer, man. Every last one. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Tropius and Bibarel. [deleted] • 4 yr. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. For Pokemon Sun on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "what do you use as your HM slave?" - Page 2. mew (:p muahahahahaha + one of the 2 pokemon that can learn every HM) craindose. It was the first appearance of the Pokémon series on the Nintendo DS, marking the true beginning of the next generation of games. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. ago. Tropius has been a solid HM slave choice in almost every appearance it has made since its inception. FLY on Honkrow. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive FlashTropius!!!! My favorite HM slave in-game. Latias is my HM slave in Alpha Sapphire. Corn (Shiny so it looks like a kernel of corn) Garchomp - Super joe (From Commando and Bionic Commando) Female Garchomp - Honey Porygon2 - Bluebyrd (A kind of Plum, and another name for Duck sauce is Plum sauce, also it's shiny so it's blue) Porygon-z - Kid Dynamo Female Scizor - Vanessa (Scizor is a Mantis, Orchid Mantis is a. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. For Pokemon SoulSilver Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Best HM Slave, Heart gold board?". So, the question is. It is the Fruit Pokémon that has fruit for feet. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. 1. Houndoom was a must for Jynx, Blaziken was actually pretty useless through the game and I only used it because he looks cool. even a tropius and absol? Tropius flies and solarbeams, Absol has monster attack and Swords Dance. Pokemon Emerald Version. Ditching HMs was such a great idea for the devs, and for the pokemon franchise in general. I taught it Strength, Fly, Cut, and Flash. A great replacement for Linoone and stand-in until your preferred flying Pokemon that are harder to get, like Flygon and Salamence. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. Grass/Dragon would be an awesome type combo, and Tropius already looks like a dragon. I might have to give Meganium the edge, though. I usually don't have an HM slave. I usually use a Tropius and Psyduck myself. 1. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. There are many combinations of just two Pokémon that can cover every HM. It is also my best Pokemon at level 100, can beat nearly all others, and can 1-hit KO most Pokemon with just one Surf. One word. I'd say use a Tropius HM slave. For Pokemon Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "What pokemon are the best HM slaves for this game?" - Page 3. 3 Crobat. I think Furret and Bibarel can learn these moves as well. i dont have hm slave. there's something wrong with you if you have a dragonite HM slave though. Aerodactyl - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash Golduck - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb You can't get Aerodactyl until after the Elite Four, but you also don't need Rock Climb until Mt Silver. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). Tropius is exclusive to Platinum; if you only have access to Diamond and/or Pearl, you can't get it. That's all 7 HMs in your party at once! -. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. Bibarel uses Waterfall, Surf, Strength, and Rock Climb, whereas Skarmory knows Fly, Defog, Cut, and Rock Smash. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Aerodactyl can learn every HM in the game except Rock Climb, and Golduck can learn every HM except Cut and Fly. This week's Pokémon is Tropius! #357 Tropius (Japanese トロピウス Tropius) Fruit Pokémon. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Notify me about new: Guides. I use Skarmory and Bibarel. Reserve the weak hms like rock. Chinchou has Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Flash. 1 Crawdaunt. Stats. 5. Disturbed1314 years ago#3. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. Third, plan for the Elite Four. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The best HM slave". I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. . I <3 tropius, I can never use him as my HM slave, i love him to. At the very least though it still makes for a great HM slave. 12. Bibarel and Tropius. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Bibarel (Cut, Waterfall, Surf,. This lists each Pokémon that can learn the move. Tropius can replace Ziggy later on as it can also learn Fly. 4. Basculin can learn surf, waterfall, cut and dive. After that you can just dump the rest of the HMs on Tropius or Linoone, and it's easy enough to breed/train a new Gyarados for the post-game if that tickles your fancy (or just use the move deleter). best hm slaves? Pokemon Ruby Version Game Boy Advance. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Bibarel (Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Rock Smash) and Tropius (Fly, Defog, Strength, Cut). Since the TC is actually going to use Tropius, I don't see what the HM slave sets have to do with the topic at hand. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. CryptoTropius is cool, but it's not exactly the best stat-wise. The bunches of fruit around Tropius’s neck are very popular with children. What is the least number of HM slaves I need in my party? That are easy to catch?. Fretka Disabled: User Name Change Posts: 6068. ElysiumY2k 14 years ago #1. More so than Altaria does. Tropius is a great HM slave. Shiny lvl 100. We usually use this as an HM slave, but it's actually quite useful. Children of the southern tropics eat as snacks the fruit that grows in bunches around the neck of Tropius. Second, you want the HM Slaves that complement your party. The dashing dinosaur has a decent enough HP stat too, as well as a banana beard that honestly makes me a bit jealous. Post Posted: Nov 22, 2009 6:38 pm. Nidorina or Nidorino and Dragonite are also. It's Steel-type, I won't bother using it in battles. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. drumskatelove 14 years ago #14. 5th Gen Dex. But if you're not a fan, Roserade is pretty strong as well. Tropius, hands-down. I haven't tried evolving my non-shiny Bidoof and HM'ing. Sign in with the following networks. The Ghetto HM Slave. Gyarados, zigzagoon/linoone, bidoof/bibarrel, tropius, and even samurott. And a. (Later I used a gorebyss for dive and secret power) Linoone and Sharpedo. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). Of course, these are all main series HM slave picks. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. - The amount of grinding you. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. Post Posted: Nov 22, 2009 6:42 pm. - It has a terrible movepool. The Supreme Court has overruled the 9th Circuit, Trump can use Pentagon funds to build the Wall on the southern border! #MAGA. Tropius is at best an HM slave, but only in gen 3. Depends on the game, really. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. 4X Ice weak = very. Shuppet thief. Between Tropius and a water-type, you can get all 8 HMs. Bibarel and Tropius have been my Platinum HM slaves -- I was lucky enough to catch a Tropius in the Marsh so that worked wonderfully. Strength. Not sure about Rock Smash, to be honest. Pokemon Radical Red is a rom hack of, well, FireRed, that is currently making the waves in the romhack community for being, well, one of the fucking best rom hacks out there. WhiteBladeMarth 12 years ago #2. My Tropius HM slave has Fly, Rock Smash and Cut now. 3 Crobat. if you have access to sinnoh and trading, definately these 2. You can do better than that. Name: Wenitzb. Hm slaves? ZLuxray626 13 years ago #1 so far I have zig but what should I use when he's full of HMs? Final Fantasy Record Keeper: Tyro/Sentinel Grimoire - QjcW. An HM mule is an incredibly useful tool in old school Pokemon, and certain Pokemon are the most optimal options for the job. Nidoking Cut Strength Dig Hidden Power. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI had an HM Slave Metapod with Cut. Rather than checking their Pokedex pages, instead I can go on the HM Slave page and enter "Ludicolo" and "Tropius", and it'll show up as Tropius being able to learn Cut and Fly, while Ludicolo can learn Surf, Strength, Waterfall and Dive, and the last HM - Rock Smash. . . Open comment sort options Best; Top; New. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with. Cut. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. Just the quality of life features it offers would be enough, but Radical Red amps it up a notch by increasing the difficulty severely, being updated to Gen 8 in terms of movepool. Tropius - cut - fly - flash - strength/rock smash Water Pokemon - surf - dive - waterfall - strength/rock smash *Means that they don't get strength or rock smash, but they get another HM (Tentacool - cut, Chinchou - flash) that Tropius can also learn so Tropius can double up on strength and rock smash and the water can use the other HM. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). . If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. gbchaosmaster. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). mister72 14 years ago #6. Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash. i use tropius and wailord. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. You will need to breed a female Tropius with a compatible male Pokémon, with the male (for Gen 2-5) knowing the egg move in question. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. If anything, remember that those two aforementioned HM slaves are all you really need.